2022 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Cowboysrock55]

Yea I think 60/40 is more realistic since 70% of 30 carries is 21 and I wouldn't want Pollard carrying that load on a near weekly basis, but I agree that the touches should lean towards Pollard.

Yeah honestly, I don't really want Pollard getting more than 15 carries most games. To me 15 is about right for him. Enough to take advantage of his ability, but few enough that you're not wasting his talent having him beat up and worn down in games. What I think is dumb is when you have Zeke getting 22 caries and Pollard getting 8 like we saw in the Rams game. Zeke was getting you about 3.5 a pop. Pollard was getting you 10.8.

 

[boozeman]

What’s the relevance of this contrived stat? It’s weird connecting explosive run to per-game, especially after a sample size of two pairs of games

Is Joey insinuating benching Tony Pollard for 2 games and he’ll be due for explosive in the third? Or is he saying for the next two games to have Prescott airing it 50 times?

He is saying to probably expect his touches to go back to normal when Elliott is back.

 

[boozeman]

 

[shoop]

Last night I just saw the overturned fumble recovery vs Bears. Maddeningly baffling. corroborated by New York, too. Probably the worst call I’ve seen in recent years.

In watching all of the replays I didn’t think there was enough to overturn it. Having said that it looked like he got a hand on it and trapped it while he was hitting the ground and then lost it again after he was down. Still think it should have stood as a fumble but at least wasn’t as mad.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

The star on it is ugly as shit.

 

[bbgun]

wow. they actually got the color right.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

wow. they actually got the color right.

I almost asked you and phil if the jerseys the other day looked more blue and less navy than they used to... I haven't changed any settings on my tv...

God I hope nodak doesn't see this post.

 

[bbgun]

I almost asked you and phil if the jerseys the other day looked more blue and less navy than they used to... I haven't changed any settings on my tv...

God I hope nodak doesn't see this post.

nah, they're still navy

and nodik still thinks it's faggy to care about unis

 

[Cotton]

God I hope nodak doesn't see this post.

 

[Simpleton]

Yeah honestly, I don't really want Pollard getting more than 15 carries most games. To me 15 is about right for him. Enough to take advantage of his ability, but few enough that you're not wasting his talent having him beat up and worn down in games. What I think is dumb is when you have Zeke getting 22 caries and Pollard getting 8 like we saw in the Rams game. Zeke was getting you about 3.5 a pop. Pollard was getting you 10.8.

Yea that should never happen again.

I'm ok if Elliott ends up with 15 and Pollard 12 every now and again but generally speaking I think a 15/12 split towards Pollard is about right.

 

[data]

In watching all of the replays I didn’t think there was enough to overturn it. Having said that it looked like he got a hand on it and trapped it while he was hitting the ground and then lost it again after he was down. Still think it should have stood as a fumble but at least wasn’t as mad.

For what they are claiming, this requires the RB to re-establish possession in the split second between the ball first becoming loose and then before the ball came loose again. That a split-second is sufficient itself to establish possession is incredulous.

To have it be conclusive enough by ‘experts’ in New York to overturn the call on the field is the biggest blunder. No camera angle actually shows hands or arms wrapped around the ball during this so-called split-sec of repossession. It’s assumed and a poor assumption at that. The ball just as likely, if not more likely, was sliding around and then completely jarred loose. For the assumption that a bonafide re-possession occurred, it was awfully, awfully simple for the ball to have been lost the second time.

I’m okay with refs making the determination either way on the field, but New York committed the blunder.

 

[Cotton]

For what they are claiming, this requires the RB to re-establish possession in the split second between the ball first becoming loose and then before the ball came loose again. That a split-second is sufficient itself to establish possession is incredulous.

To have it be conclusive enough by ‘experts’ in New York to overturn the call on the field is the biggest blunder. No camera angle actually shows hands or arms wrapped around the ball during this so-called split-sec of repossession. It’s assumed and a poor assumption at that. The ball just as likely, if not more likely, was sliding around and then completely jarred loose. For the assumption that a bonafide re-possession occurred, it was awfully, awfully simple for the ball to have been lost the second time.

I’m okay with refs making the determination either way on the field, but New York committed the blunder.

It was a fumble, and there is no convincing me otherwise. To me, it wasn't even close.

 

[bbgun]

Speaking of penalties, Golston's hit wasn't late or to the QB's head. Was it simply too high?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

To have it be conclusive enough by ‘experts’ in New York to overturn the call on the field is the biggest blunder. No camera angle actually shows hands or arms wrapped around the ball during this so-called split-sec of repossession. It’s assumed and a poor assumption at that.

That's what I thought. I can live with their saying he re-established if that was what the original call was. But there was never a good camera view, so how did they overturn what was called on the field?

 

[Simpleton]

Speaking of penalties, Golston's hit wasn't late or to the QB's head. Was it simply too high?

The QB's head went backwards and it looked bad, that's about all it takes for a penalty these days.

 

[Cotton]

Speaking of penalties, Golston's hit wasn't late or to the QB's head. Was it simply too high?

It wasn't a penalty.

 

[Simpleton]

That's what I thought. I can live with their saying he re-established if that was what the original call was. But there was never a good camera view, so how did they overturn what was called on the field?

Have you noticed that the announcers rarely mention "irrefutable video evidence" anymore?

You used to hear that about 10 times a game and during every review, now you almost never hear it and I think it's because the league started telling refs to default towards calling plays turnovers so it can be automatically reviewed, and then they use review to determine what they think most likely happened.

 

[data]

I almost asked you and phil if the jerseys the other day looked more blue and less navy than they used to... I haven't changed any settings on my tv...

God I hope nodak doesn't see this post.

nah, they're still navy

and nodik still thinks it's faggy to care about unis

Interesting. The helmet star and stripe during Romo era were navy and matched the navy throwback jerseys.

Now that the throwback helmet star and stripe are more royal blue (as they were in the 60s), I wonder if the jersey will match suit.

If not, then this throwback set (royal helmet & navy jersey) will have the direct opposite color mismatch than our traditional home set with royal blue jersey numbers and navy helmet star/stripe.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I don’t disagree with your statement, but Joey’s using weakly-relevant stats to support this statement.

Joey specifically points to 15+ yard gains, as if this is one of the most significant stats for a bell-cow RB.

If Joey was gonna go off of explosive gain, show the YPC before and after the explosive gain in the same game. If Pollard has an explosive gain in the 4th quarter, the next 4th quarter touch is much different from the first touches of the next week’s game, but Joey’s method seemingly lumps same game and next game touches altogether.

However, basing his YPC as # of touches increase is more relevant/powerful than basing it on before/after explosive gain. Compare YPC for carries #3-7 vs #13-17, although this is significantly skewed by game situation.

I agree that YPC and long runs are way overrated.

 

[bbgun]

Now that the throwback helmet star and stripe are more royal blue (as they were in the 60s), I wonder if the jersey will match suit.

knowing them, it won't