2022 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Chocolate Lab]

What’s the relevance of this contrived stat? It’s weird connecting explosive run to per-game.

To defend Zeke's honor.

 

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To defend Zeke's honor.

Some stats are just so statistical that they lose connection to reality.

Hai, guyz!!! Since Dak Prescott typically has a regression after a 3-TD passing game, the next time he throws 2 TDs in a game, we should stop red zone passing for the game’s remainder. Totally prevented a letdown game!

Now, captain of the Gameday Chatter W-L thread, that’s different.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

What’s the relevance of this contrived stat? It’s weird connecting explosive run to per-game, especially after a sample size of two pairs of games

Is Joey insinuating benching Tony Pollard for 2 games and he’ll be due for explosive in the third? Or is he saying for the next two games to have Prescott airing it 50 times?

Random stat contrived to try and say Pollard won't be much use for a couple weeks. Might as well throw this in the trash. I think he is just trying to point out that Pollard isn't capable of being a lead back from week to week. Again, the stat he is using is just random trash.

 

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Random stat contrived to try and say Pollard won't be much use for a couple weeks. Might as well throw this in the trash. I think he is just trying to point out that Pollard isn't capable of being a lead back from week to week. Again, the stat he is using is just random trash.

especially redonkulous considering Joey is isolating 15+ yard gains, as if multiple 10-yard gains are insignificant.

Furthermore, what’s the solution here —- accelerate the occurrence of the next explosive gain with a Zeke heavy workload, who has even less explosive gains?

 

[NoDak]

2-7.

MAYBE 3-6 if we get some breaks.

 

[Cotton]

2-7.

MAYBE 3-6 if we get some breaks.

Who hacked your account?

 

[NoDak]

Who hacked your account?

My bad.

Too homerish for this board? I'll try harder.

 

[Cotton]

My bad.

Too homerish for this board? I'll try harder.

I am confused by your tactics.

 

[Genghis Khan]

What’s the relevance of this contrived stat? It’s weird connecting explosive run to per-game, especially after a sample size of two pairs of games

Is Joey insinuating benching Tony Pollard for 2 games and he’ll be due for explosive in the third? Or is he saying for the next two games to have Prescott airing it 50 times?

He's saying he's not a bell cow and is less effective the more touches he gets.

Which is true.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Some stats are just so statistical that they lose connection to reality.

Hai, guyz!!! Since Dak Prescott typically has a regression after a 3-TD passing game, the next time he throws 2 TDs in a game, we should stop red zone passing for the game’s remainder. Totally prevented a letdown game!

Now, captain of the Gameday Chatter W-L thread, that’s different.

You can't compare it to a QB because RBs can split time and QBs don't.

 

[mcnuttz]

There you go. His max is 30 plays.

What would Zeke do after a 54 yard TD run?

We'll never know.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

What would Zeke do after a 54 yard TD run?

We'll never know.

I'm also curious what they define as a "heavy" workload game. 15 touches? Because that has happened so few times in a fairly short career. Your sample size probably needs to be a bit bigger.

This is about as dumb of a statistic as saying each of the last 3 weeks Pollards carries have increased. Each of those increases has led to a higher YPC. So clearly the more carries Pollard gets the more productive he is on a per carry basis...

 

[mcnuttz]

He wasn't getting many chances last year. They preferred to run Sprained Knee Zeke out there instead.

I bet it isn't another 2.3 games before he has a 12 yard run this time.

He's saying he's not a bell cow and is less effective the more touches he gets.

Which is true.

While true, he also doesn't need to be a backup to a RB whose prime was 5 years ago.

 

[mcnuttz]

To defend Zeke's honor.

Not to be trite, but we go as he goes.

 

[mcnuttz]

2-7.

MAYBE 3-6 if we get some breaks.

Your homerism gives me diarrhea.

 

[Simpleton]

I'm also curious what they define as a "heavy" workload game. 15 touches? Because that has happened so few times in a fairly short career. Your sample size probably needs to be a bit bigger.

This is about as dumb of a statistic as saying each of the last 3 weeks Pollards carries have increased. Each of those increases has led to a higher YPC. So clearly the more carries Pollard gets the more productive he is on a per carry basis...

The philosophy of not wearing down Pollard is very apt, you could tell that he was done halfway through that 50+ yard TD. There's no way he can handle 20 carries a game throughout the regular season, but once the playoffs get here we need to ride him into ground since we're looking at an absolute max of 4 games.

 

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He's saying he's not a bell cow and is less effective the more touches he gets.

Which is true.

I don’t disagree with your statement, but Joey’s using weakly-relevant stats to support this statement.

Joey specifically points to 15+ yard gains, as if this is one of the most significant stats for a bell-cow RB.

If Joey was gonna go off of explosive gain, show the YPC before and after the explosive gain in the same game. If Pollard has an explosive gain in the 4th quarter, the next 4th quarter touch is much different from the first touches of the next week’s game, but Joey’s method seemingly lumps same game and next game touches altogether.

However, basing his YPC as # of touches increase is more relevant/powerful than basing it on before/after explosive gain. Compare YPC for carries #3-7 vs #13-17, although this is significantly skewed by game situation.

 

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The philosophy of not wearing down Pollard is very apt, you could tell that he was done halfway through that 50+ yard TD. There's no way he can handle 20 carries a game throughout the regular season, but once the playoffs get here we need to ride him into ground since we're looking at an absolute max of 4 games.

I don’t believe anyone here is clamoring for 20+ carries for Pollard, though, which is why much of this anti-Pollard criticism is irrelevant.

The clamor is for Thunder & Lightning split 70/30 with Lightning getting 70.

 

[Simpleton]

I don’t believe anyone here is clamoring for 20+ carries for Pollard, though, which is why much of this anti-Pollard criticism is irrelevant.

The clamor is for Thunder & Lightning split 70/30 with Lightning getting 70.

Yea I think 60/40 is more realistic since 70% of 30 carries is 21 and I wouldn't want Pollard carrying that load on a near weekly basis, but I agree that the touches should lean towards Pollard.

 

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Yea I think 60/40 is more realistic since 70% of 30 carries is 21 and I wouldn't want Pollard carrying that load on a near weekly basis, but I agree that the touches should lean towards Pollard.

Yes, 70/30 is an approximate based off 20 carry total (for RBs) since none of us are demanding 20+ for Pollard and excludes obvious late game time-burning with the lead. We also have the luxury of a few touches going to Prescott or WRs