2021 Cowboys Draft Chatter Thread...

[Cotton]

Indeed and it's that type of thinking that I find idiotic.

If you think Horn is the 12th best prospect or whatever, fine, but I think most just want that 10 pick to be a CB one way or the other.

If we take Horn at 10 I might just lose my shit.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

If we take Horn at 10 I might just lose my shit.

I don't even mind Horn. But I'm not just going down the list of best available corner either. That is insanity.

 

[Cotton]

I don't even mind Horn. But I'm not just going down the list of best available corner either. That is insanity.

I like Horn, too, at like 25. Not at 10.

 

[Couchcoach]

I like Horn, too, at like 25. Not at 10.

Can't see him being there at 25

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Can't see him being there at 25

I can't see him being there at 25 either. I think he is a legit top 20 talent. Just more like 15-20.

 

[NoDak]

Horn is going higher than people think.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Horn is going higher than people think.

Oh I wouldn't be shocked if he went top 15. He has size, speed, hands and pedigree. Crazy to think he is the son of Joe Horn and the crazy cell phone celebration.

 

[ravidubey]

Horn is a good player, but I hate the BCBA drafting philosophy.

Every 4-5 years it deletes our first round. There WILL be better players than Surtain at 10, but these Joneses and our ridiculous fan base are obsessed with the position.

Sure if Surtain was this interception machine. But he’s not. He’s a reliable guy with a high floor and average ceiling

 

[Simpleton]

Horn is a good player, but I hate the BCBA drafting philosophy.

Every 4-5 years it deletes our first round. There WILL be better players than Surtain at 10, but these Joneses and our ridiculous fan base are obsessed with the position.

Sure if Surtain was this interception machine. But he’s not. He’s a reliable guy with a high floor and average ceiling

By average ceiling you mean for a top 10 pick?

Because he's likely to make at least 2 or so Pro Bowls.

 

[Genghis Khan]

By average ceiling you mean for a top 10 pick?

Because he's likely to make at least 2 or so Pro Bowls.

He's way better than Ravi is giving him credit for, and may well be the best defensive player in the draft.

Hell, Carolina might take him before he even gets to us.

 

[Simpleton]

He's way better than Ravi is giving him credit for, and may well be the best defensive player in the draft.

Hell, Carolina might take him before he even gets to us.

Yea I'm not in love with him necessarily but if I had to bet on which defensive player would make the most Pro Bowls from this class it'd be him. I might rather gamble on Parsons, and I'd certainly rather trade down but Surtain is the best combination of high floor due to his refined technique and experience combined with upside due to elite size/athleticism.

You know you're getting a really good player who will probably make a few Pro Bowls, he just doesn't really seem to have that tantalizing upside of a guy like Parsons, but he also doesn't come with the same risk either.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yea I'm not in love with him necessarily but if I had to bet on which defensive player would make the most Pro Bowls from this class it'd be him. I might rather gamble on Parsons, and I'd certainly rather trade down but Surtain is the best combination of high floor due to his refined technique and experience combined with upside due to elite size/athleticism.

You know you're getting a really good player who will probably make a few Pro Bowls, he just doesn't really seem to have that tantalizing upside of a guy like Parsons, but he also doesn't come with the same risk either.

Truth be told most of us just don't want a corner high in the draft. But that doesn't mean Surtain isn't a great corner prospect. And there just aren't a ton of elite defender prospects in this draft. I'd much rather an elite DT but there is no guys worth our pick.

 

[ravidubey]

He's way better than Ravi is giving him credit for, and may well be the best defensive player in the draft.

Hell, Carolina might take him before he even gets to us.

All I’m saying Genghis is he’s not known for being a turnover machine like Farley at least has been.

He’s a good corner from a big school who has solid measurables, but not in the Patrick Peterson or even DRC range. DRC went 16th, and folks want to draft Surtain 10th.

It’s not his talent as much as the crazy high demand/market at the position that’s got Superbowl dreaming Cowboys fans obsessed.

Had Dallas not had this need on defense, no one would be talking about him. That’s a red flag to me.

I want an elite talent or a trade down.

 

[Simpleton]

Truth be told most of us just don't want a corner high in the draft. But that doesn't mean Surtain isn't a great corner prospect. And there just aren't a ton of elite defender prospects in this draft. I'd much rather an elite DT but there is no guys worth our pick.

Trade down, to 15-20ish, then trade up from our 2nd with the extra ammunition to 25-30ish and get two of Ojulari, Horn, Rousseau, Phillips, Owusu-Koramoah, Barmore, Collins and Moehrig.

That's the ideal scenario but in lieu of trading down Surtain is fine at 10.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Had Dallas not had this need on defense, no one would be talking about him. That’s a red flag to me

That's not true at all. Regardless of Dallas most have Surtain as a top 10 prospect.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Rev]

Is Ravi really Jerry Jones?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Is Ravi really Jerry Jones?

No Ravi loves 350 pound DTs too much.

 

[Cotton]

Please let him be gone by our pick, and if Jerry trades up for him, my god. This board will go into maintenance mode.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

ESPN's Chris Mortensen said Dallas Cowboys owner and GM Jerry Jones is "infatuated" with Florida TE Kyle Pitts.