2020 Season | Week 16 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Eagles @ Cowboys | 12/26/2020

[Chocolate Lab]

Losing your three best OL to injury is huge, though, and that's not even accounting for Frederick retiring.

Oh, and your starting QB. So I wouldn't say this was a near healthy offense.

The defense would've sucked regardless, yes. But the offense should've been good enough for, say, a couple more wins.

I do like Rivera a lot, though. Think he's an excellent coach.

Edit, shoulda just waited and quoted Simp's post.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Never.

LOL. He's one of the better DCs in the last fifteen years.
His Denver defense dragged Peyton Manning's corpse to a Super Bowl title, then turned around and held Brady to 13 in the Super Bowl as the Rams DC.
Not to mention Dallas hasn't had a stingy defense since 2009 when Wade was DC.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Losing your three best OL to injury is huge, though, and that's not even accounting for Frederick retiring.

Oh, and your starting QB. So I wouldn't say this was a near healthy offense.

The defense would've sucked regardless, yes. But the offense should've been good enough for, say, a couple more wins.

I do like Rivera a lot, though. Think he's an excellent coach.

Edit, shoulda just waited and quoted Simp's post.

Rivera would have been a good hire in Dallas though. I have no doubt our defense would have been better with him here. The offense is great but Kellen could have handled that. Although I think McCarthy has helped him improve.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Rivera would have been a good hire in Dallas though. I have no doubt our defense would have been better with him here. The offense is great but Kellen could have handled that. Although I think McCarthy has helped him improve.

I like Rivera more than MM, honestly. But I don't have a problem with McCarthy, either. I understand the reasoning behind the hire and I think it was sound enough.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I like Rivera more than MM, honestly. But I don't have a problem with McCarthy, either. I understand the reasoning behind the hire and I think it was sound enough.

Yeah I think they are on a similar level. Given the fact that we already had a pretty good offense a defensive coordinator as head coach may have made more sense. Of course if McCarthy had hired the right defensive coordinator it wouldn't have been an issue either.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

They're 6-9 with no truly significant injuries except I guess Landon Collins?

Yea, they don't have much of anything offensively, but that's the point. Unless they miraculously find about 3 offensive Pro Bowlers in the off-season, along with a somewhat legitimate QB, this is more or less what they are. They don't have a Pro Bowl QB coming back to significantly boost their roster.

I guess the big difference that I see is the under and over performance of each team respectively.

I have no problem going on record as saying that I dont think McCarthy is the answer we have been waiting for. Be it in game decisions going back to his time in GB to now, or how he has filled out his staff, I dont think he is the guy. Not saying that Rivera or Judge are Belichicks in the making, but I do think it is fair to say that at this point they have done at least as much if not more with their roster than we have ours.

Taking a step back, I dont think for one second MM has done a better coaching job than Rivera, though it gets a little thinner for NY. I mean hell, WFT just picked second overall, with the Giants fourth.

Thats really my only point of contention. You can criticize those teams and their lack of success all you want, but when you really pare it down, I see more impressive coaching performances than what we have got here. Especially when you take into consideration their rosters before the season, during the season, and any other circumstance that may have presented itself.

We always critique the fact that this team cant seem to do well unless everyone is healthy and hitting on all cylinders, but even when Dak was here despite being down two OL (with still the arguably best G in the game) , this team was still a shit show. And that was with far, far superior QB play than either NY or WFT had to show for themselves. How did we fare? 1-3.

Truthfully, I feel like we are debating the difference between Dr Pepper and Mr Pibb. McCarthy simply hasnt been impressive to me. I just have more respect for the jobs that Judge and Rivera have done than MM.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I guess the big difference that I see is the under and over performance of each team respectively.

I have no problem going on record as saying that I dont think McCarthy is the answer we have been waiting for. Be it in game decisions going back to his time in GB to now, or how he has filled out his staff, I dont think he is the guy. Not saying that Rivera or Judge are Belichicks in the making, but I do think it is fair to say that at this point they have done at least as much if not more with their roster than we have ours.

Taking a step back, I dont think for one second MM has done a better coaching job than Rivera, though it gets a little thinner for NY. I mean hell, WFT just picked second overall, with the Giants fourth.

Thats really my only point of contention. You can criticize those teams and their lack of success all you want, but when you really pare it down, I see more impressive coaching performances than what we have got here. Especially when you take into consideration their rosters before the season, during the season, and any other circumstance that may have presented itself.

We always critique the fact that this team cant seem to do well unless everyone is healthy and hitting on all cylinders, but even when Dak was here despite being down two OL (with still the arguably best G in the game) , this team was still a shit show. And that was with far, far superior QB play than either NY or WFT had to show for themselves. How did we fare? 1-3.

Truthfully, I feel like we are debating the difference between Dr Pepper and Mr Pibb. McCarthy simply hasnt been impressive to me. I just have more respect for the jobs that Judge and Rivera have done than MM.

Frankly I don't think any of them have been overly impressive. None of those teams are going to reach .500 despite being in the worst division in the NFL. But McCarthy has definitely had to deal with far worse injuries than the other two. Of course the other two weren't exactly taking over good teams either.

 

[Simpleton]

I guess the big difference that I see is the under and over performance of each team respectively.

I have no problem going on record as saying that I dont think McCarthy is the answer we have been waiting for. Be it in game decisions going back to his time in GB to now, or how he has filled out his staff, I dont think he is the guy. Not saying that Rivera or Judge are Belichicks in the making, but I do think it is fair to say that at this point they have done at least as much if not more with their roster than we have ours.

Taking a step back, I dont think for one second MM has done a better coaching job than Rivera, though it gets a little thinner for NY. I mean hell, WFT just picked second overall, with the Giants fourth.

Thats really my only point of contention. You can criticize those teams and their lack of success all you want, but when you really pare it down, I see more impressive coaching performances than what we have got here. Especially when you take into consideration their rosters before the season, during the season, and any other circumstance that may have presented itself.

We always critique the fact that this team cant seem to do well unless everyone is healthy and hitting on all cylinders, but even when Dak was here despite being down two OL (with still the arguably best G in the game) , this team was still a shit show. And that was with far, far superior QB play than either NY or WFT had to show for themselves. How did we fare? 1-3.

Truthfully, I feel like we are debating the difference between Dr Pepper and Mr Pibb. McCarthy simply hasnt been impressive to me. I just have more respect for the jobs that Judge and Rivera have done than MM.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this but even if Rivera is a better HC overall, which is up for debate either way, we should be a good bit better for the foreseeable future unless they just start hitting grand slams in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.

 

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[1bigfan13]

Has @1bigfan13 been around? He is about to lose the DCC FF championship. I need him to be here for that.

Congrats.

I rolled the dice on Pollard instead of grabbing another RB and that proved to be the difference.

 

[1bigfan13]

Well....you all gotta face it.

Things are pretty strong that we can play to get into the playoffs next week.

I've had my complaints about McCarthy but he's looking like a definite improvement over Garrett. How much of an improvement remains to be seen.

Given all the injuries and adversities this team has endured this year, does anyone honestly believe the Cowboys could finish with 7 wins and possibly win the division under Garrett? I can't see it happening.

If they beat the NYG next week they'll finish with only 1 fewer win than Garrett had last year with a healthy roster. That's a pretty clear indication of the gap between the two coaches, IMO. One guy did a solid job coaching around a tattered roster, while the other guy needs near perfect conditions in order to win games.

 

[Cotton]

Got too greedy with the


Congrats.

I rolled the dice on Pollard instead of grabbing another RB and that proved to be the difference.

Thanks. I think it was reasonable to start Pollard. With Zeke coming off injury it was smart thinking that Pollard would get his share of touches. Instead, they just ran the shit out of Zeke.

 

[ravidubey]

Supposing Dallas beats NY, not a given mind you, but likely...

Philadelphia ain’t going to fight Washington on our behalf. Maybe if it was NY they were winning for, but knowing they send us to a home playoff game... I just don’t see it.

One factor is the game is on prime time TV, meaning Philly can’t make it obvious in front of the whole football watching public, but this is clearly Washington’s game to lose.

 

[data]

Philadelphia drafts #6 and we’re at #11.

Hilariously, Houston gives its #4 to Miami (1st and 2nd rounder). OMG

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[NoDak]

Supposing Dallas beats NY, not a given mind you, but likely...

Philadelphia ain’t going to fight Washington on our behalf. Maybe if it was NY they were winning for, but knowing they send us to a home playoff game... I just don’t see it.

One factor is the game is on prime time TV, meaning Philly can’t make it obvious in front of the whole football watching public, but this is clearly Washington’s game to lose.

Even without that extra incentive to screw us, I still don't think Philly would have enough to beat the Skins. With Alex Smith back, their offense is at least passable. And McLaurin should be healthy, too. And on the other side, I think the Skins defense is just to much for the Eagles to handle. Hell, look how they struggled with our crappy D when they still had something to play for, and had the incentive of knocking us out of the playoffs themselves.

 

[NoDak]

Philadelphia drafts #6 and we’re at #11.

Hilariously, Houston gives its #4 to Miami (1st and 2nd rounder). OMG

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Cincy has played themselves out of position for Penei Sewell, too.

And we're probably playing ourselves down far enough for the team to feel it's ok to take a CB. That should go over like a fart in church around here.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Even without that extra incentive to screw us, I still don't think Philly would have enough to beat the Skins. With Alex Smith back, their offense is at least passable. And McLaurin should be healthy, too. And on the other side, I think the Skins defense is just to much for the Eagles to handle. Hell, look how they struggled with our crappy D when they still had something to play for.

I don't think Philly will lose on purpose. But they just got eliminated from the playoffs. I doubt they have a ton of motivation to go out and try to win this game. Our best hope is that the coaching staff tries really hard to put something together to help Hurts sort of springboard in as the starter for next year. I'd love to see Hurts have a great game against the Skins and lock that job up though. Honestly he looks like a gimmic QB that I would love for the Eagles to think he is a legit starting NFL QB. The guy can hit some wide open throws after scrambling or threatening with his legs but in terms of dropping back, reading a defense and completing a ball he sucks.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Cincy has played themselves out of position for Penei Sewell, too.

And we're probably playing ourselves down far enough for the team to feel it's ok to take a CB. That should go over like a fart in church around here.

Better than taking a corner at 4 I guess.

 

[NoDak]

I don't think Philly will lose on purpose. But they just got eliminated from the playoffs. I doubt they have a ton of motivation to go out and try to win this game. Our best hope is that the coaching staff tries really hard to put something together to help Hurts sort of springboard in as the starter for next year. I'd love to see Hurts have a great game against the Skins and lock that job up though. Honestly he looks like a gimmic QB that I would love for the Eagles to think he is a legit starting NFL QB. The guy can hit some wide open throws after scrambling or threatening with his legs but in terms of dropping back, reading a defense and completing a ball he sucks.

Agreed all around. Wentz is the far better pocket QB, but he has completely lost it in his head. Whether he gets that back or not, who knows. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery. But yeah, I think Hurts will be like RGIII. Will look awesome sometimes, but the league will catch up to him. Either way, it's nice to see the Eagles with this problem. All that money tied up, and unless the stars align for them, still don't have the long term answer at QB on their roster.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I don't think Philly will lose on purpose. But they just got eliminated from the playoffs. I doubt they have a ton of motivation to go out and try to win this game. Our best hope is that the coaching staff tries really hard to put something together to help Hurts sort of springboard in as the starter for next year. I'd love to see Hurts have a great game against the Skins and lock that job up though. Honestly he looks like a gimmic QB that I would love for the Eagles to think he is a legit starting NFL QB. The guy can hit some wide open throws after scrambling or threatening with his legs but in terms of dropping back, reading a defense and completing a ball he sucks.

You can tell all this after 3 games? Amazing. I don't think even the Eagles coaching staff has discovered that yet.