2020 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread...

[Simpleton]

I'd prefer a 4 year contract in the first place, I think they're idiots for trying to push it to 5.

 

[bbgun]

I prefer the franchise tag. I find it hard to believe McCarthy wants to be tied to a guy for four or five years without knowing what he has yet.

 

[Stasheroo]

I prefer the franchise tag. I find it hard to believe McCarthy wants to be tied to a guy for four or five years without knowing what he has yet.

You don't think that four years of film gives him a good idea?

 

[L.T. Fan]

Fact is, you don’t need an all-timer to get to the Super Bowl. Is Dak good enough to get there? Yes.

The question is if the team around Dak good enough to get us to the Super Bowl? Likewise, is Dak good enough to take this team, not as good as 85 Bears or 00 Ravens, to the Super Bowl?

I think our best comparison in terms of QB quality and surrounding team quality is Matt Ryan, Falcons.

I think this was touched on yesterday. If McCarthy can get improvement from the rest of the team then that would make Dak better. But even if he didn’t get better an improvement on the rest of the team would make Dallas a team that could compete with the entire league.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I'm allowing for the existence of first and second round busts. The ones who do not bust, however, have a better track record than fourth rounders who don't bust. Does Dak have a better chance of taking us to the SB than first rounder Trubisky? Yes, but in all likelihood, he won't be facing Trubisky (or a facsimile thereof).

 

[Genghis Khan]

I prefer the franchise tag. I find it hard to believe McCarthy wants to be tied to a guy for four or five years without knowing what he has yet.

So why didn't McCarthy pick a team with a clean slate at Qb, then?

 

[bbgun]

You don't think that four years of film gives him a good idea?

There's only so much you can glean from film. And if film never lied, no first round draft prospect would ever bust.

 

[bbgun]

So why didn't McCarthy pick a team with a clean slate at Qb, then?

what other team was offering him a job? the Giants let him leave the building without an offer.

 

[Stasheroo]

There's only so much you can glean from film. And if film never lied, no first round draft prospect would ever bust.

Are you saying that college film is the same as pro film?

 

[bbgun]

Are you saying that college film is the same as pro film?

no NFL free agent did much shittier with his second team? the Bucs had loads of great film of Alvin Harper, right?

 

[Stasheroo]

no NFL free agent did much shittier with his second team? the Bucs had loads of great film of Alvin Harper, right?

So why did you say this then?

There's only so much you can glean from film. And if film never lied, no first round draft prospect would ever bust.

You seem to be making a real effort to project Dak as some 'unknown commodity' when nothing is further from the truth.

 

[bbgun]

There's no contradiction. Film lied about Harper and it occasionally lies about premiere college prospects. Dak was not signed long-term when McCarthy took the job. All he knows about Dak is that he's a good, not great, QB in the 10 to 15 range. And McCarthy has only succeeded with greats.

 

[Genghis Khan]

what other team was offering him a job? the Giants let him leave the building without an offer.

Do you think Dallas was his only chance at a job?

 

[bbgun]

Do you think Dallas was his only chance at a job?

He was running out of options. I think Cleveland would have given him a hard look.

 

[Stasheroo]

There's no contradiction. Film lied about Harper and it occasionally lies about premiere college prospects. Dak was not signed long-term when McCarthy took the job. All he knows about Dak is that he's a good, not great, QB in the 10 to 15 range. And McCarthy has only succeeded with greats.

Maybe, like me, he sees that since he's entered the league, Dak's numbers are on par or better than the last quarterback that McCarthy had?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

There's no contradiction. Film lied about Harper and it occasionally lies about premiere college prospects. Dak was not signed long-term when McCarthy took the job. All he knows about Dak is that he's a good, not great, QB in the 10 to 15 range. And McCarthy has only succeeded with greats.

I'm guessing McCarthy and the Cowboys view Dak as better than 10-15th best QB in the NFL. They wouldn't offer 35 mil per year for that.

 

[bbgun]

I'm guessing McCarthy and the Cowboys view Dak as better than 10-15th best QB in the NFL. They wouldn't offer 35 mil per year for that.

No, this is Jerry falling in love again and not wanting to do the hard work of finding a franchise QB before he croaks.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

No, this is Jerry falling in love again and not wanting to do the hard work of finding a franshise QB before he croaks.

You should hear McCarthy gush about Dak. Because he has.

 

[NoDak]

There's only so much you can glean from film. And if film never lied, no first round draft prospect would ever bust.

Yeah, because the film they have on them before they are drafted shows how they'll play against higher competition and with the faster speed of the NFL.

If they could only bring the defenses they played against in college...

 

[Stasheroo]

No, this is Jerry falling in love again and not wanting to do the hard work of finding a franshise QB before he croaks.

Would you want him to?

The last time out, they wanted Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook and 'settled' for Prescott.