2025 Season | Week 7 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys | 10/19/2025

UncleMilti · Monday at 6:51 AM

Sheik said:
I meant to ask, is everyone just pretending Brady is doing even a decent job?

Greg Olsen needs to leave Fox first chance he gets.

Olsen and Brady both have the most faggotty voices on TV, especially given the fact they are ex NFL players.

UncleMilti · Monday at 6:53 AM

Genghis Khan said:
I don't think he's good.

Eh, he’s got a good arm and he’s very mobile. The mobile part helps his game tremendously. Unfortunately that’s the new NFL.

Chocolate Lab · Monday at 7:01 AM

Usually Daniels will have some misfires, but for a drive or three he'll catch fire and make some great throws perfectly on target. Yesterday he never hit that hot streak.

Simpleton · Monday at 7:38 AM

UncleMilti said:
There’s nothing better than dirt stomping the shitbag Commanders and sucking the hopes and dreams out of that fan base.

I admit I laughed hysterically when Daniels and his stick legs went down. It was more of laughing at the shithead fanbase…I mean who could ever forgive the ES retards and the homers over there at the Extreme Skins forum?

I still think Daniels is a really good QB going thru the sophomore slump but I’m not sure that slight build is going to hold up in the NFL- plus DCs now have a season of tape on what he does best and guys are trying to tee off on him when he takes off to run.

If we had a real pass rush the score wouldn’t have been in the same zipcode.

Given their schedule that loss yesterday kind of ended their season, can't see them finishing better than 8-9 at this point.

And it was definitely sweet knowing how cult-like their fanbase has become over Daniels.

Simpleton · Monday at 7:44 AM

UncleMilti said:
Eh, he’s got a good arm and he’s very mobile. The mobile part helps his game tremendously. Unfortunately that’s the new NFL.

He'll be good as long as his legs hold up and he can handle running the ball 8-12 times a game, which of course won't be very long.

You can see that when the chips are down his natural instinct is to fall back on his running ability, even yesterday he had 8 carries in just over 2 quarters, if he had played the whole game who knows how many times he would've ran? Probably at least 12 times, maybe upwards of 15.

Like most things related to the NFL small samples get blown out of proportion, key nuance and detail is lost, and you end up with sweeping narratives that people just conform to.

The dirty little secret is that everything went perfect for them last year and they were really an 8-9 win caliber team with an extreme amount of luck, this is just natural regression to the mean. Their offense last year was primarily built around getting to 3rd and 2 with a combination of Daniels running and quick-hitting little passes for 4-6 yards, the passing game was quietly very conservative and managed to protect Daniels from having to sit in the pocket and make complex reads, but nobody notices that unless you really watch closely because of the narratives that take shape. That strategy lasts as long as you have a historic 4th down conversion % that lasts all season and your QB is fresh enough to handle 8-10 carries a game, but that's never going to be a recipe that lasts for the long term.

Genghis Khan · Monday at 7:49 AM

Simpleton said:
Their offense last year was primarily built around getting to 3rd and 2 with a combination of Daniels running and quick-hitting little passes for 4-6 yards, the passing game was quietly very conservative and managed to protect Daniels from having to sit in the pocket and make complex reads, but nobody notices that unless you really watch closely because of the narratives that take shape. That strategy lasts as long as you have a historic 4th down conversion % that lasts all season and your QB is fresh enough to handle 8-10 carries a game, but that's never going to be a recipe that lasts for the long term.

Exactly. You can only manage that for so long before the QB has to actually learn to be a passer. Remains to be seen with Daniels but I'm skeptical at the very least.

Simpleton · Monday at 7:55 AM

Another thing about Washington that I mentioned on one of the random podcasts that we did in the offseason with @boozeman and @mcnuttz is that they've kind of worked themselves into a shoot based on the unexpected run they made last year.

They actually believed they were that caliber of a team and traded resources for aging vets (Tunsil is 31, Deebo will be 30 in January) despite the fact that their roster isn't actually that talented to begin with. Not to mention trading a 3 for Lattimore last year who is completely washed.

If you take Daniels off the table who are their best 5 players? McLaurin who is 30, Bobby Wagner who is like 36, Luvu who is like 29, and Tunsil/Deebo who are pushing 30+.

They have very little top-end talent on the roster, which got ignored because of their run, and then they went and traded a bunch of picks for aging dudes who will be done in about 2 years. Now they're out both their 2nd and 4th next year (on top of picks in this past draft) and who do they have on the roster that they can really bank on as cornerstones for the next 5+ years?

Cowboysrock55 · Monday at 7:56 AM

The real key to yesterday was how we stopped the run. We all discuss coverages but yesterday the run defense was exceptional. The Dline again looked totally different. They were aggressive but under control. They kept blockers off the LBers and played disciplined in their lanes. And all that run stopping put Daniels in unfavorable passing situations that he couldn't throw accurate enough for. He could really only complete balls to the wide open guys against zone coverage.

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · Monday at 8:02 AM

Simpleton said:
Ultimately I think we'll miss out on the playoffs by a game or two, probably with either a 9-8-1 or 8-9-1 record

We play 17 games …. Take your shoes off next time … :lol

Simpleton · Monday at 8:04 AM

SaveAHorseRideACowboy said:
We play 17 games …. Take your shoes off next time …

8-8-1 or 9-7-1 then bucko.

How can I be expected to be accurate talking about records with a fucking tie and now 17 games?

Simpleton · Monday at 8:09 AM

Cowboysrock55 said:
The real key to yesterday was how we stopped the run. We all discuss coverages but yesterday the run defense was exceptional. The Dline again looked totally different. They were aggressive but under control. They kept blockers off the LBers and played disciplined in their lanes. And all that run stopping put Daniels in unfavorable passing situations that he couldn't throw accurate enough for. He could really only complete balls to the wide open guys against zone coverage.

Gotta see them start stringing performances together.

They played well against the Jets, then reverted back to playing as poorly as ever against Carolina, now they have to put back-to-back decent performances together.

I don't expect dominance of course, just get a few stops and hold Denver to maybe 24 or something.

Cowboysrock55 · Monday at 8:31 AM

Simpleton said:
Gotta see them start stringing performances together.

They played well against the Jets, then reverted back to playing as poorly as ever against Carolina, now they have to put back-to-back decent performances together.

I don't expect dominance of course, just get a few stops and hold Denver to maybe 24 or something.

The thing with the Jets game is the run defense actually looked like shit. It just didn't matter because of our lead. And that carried over to the Panthers game where the run defense was beyond pathetic. This Redskins game at least felt like we got back to doing that right. And while fixing the run we did better in coverage in large part because we started to run man coverage. Granted it's easier to run man coverage against a bunch of nobodies as opposed to elite receivers. But I'd rather die trying to cover guys and getting beat as opposed to just covering no one in zone coverage.

Plan9Misfit · Monday at 9:13 AM

UncleMilti said:
Olsen and Brady both have the most faggotty voices on TV, especially given the fact they are ex NFL players.

At least Olsen knows how to break down a play without sounding like a pompous douche.

UncleMilti · Monday at 9:15 AM

Simpleton said:
He'll be good as long as his legs hold up and he can handle running the ball 8-12 times a game, which of course won't be very long.

You can see that when the chips are down his natural instinct is to fall back on his running ability, even yesterday he had 8 carries in just over 2 quarters, if he had played the whole game who knows how many times he would've ran? Probably at least 12 times, maybe upwards of 15.

Like most things related to the NFL small samples get blown out of proportion, key nuance and detail is lost, and you end up with sweeping narratives that people just conform to.

The dirty little secret is that everything went perfect for them last year and they were really an 8-9 win caliber team with an extreme amount of luck, this is just natural regression to the mean. Their offense last year was primarily built around getting to 3rd and 2 with a combination of Daniels running and quick-hitting little passes for 4-6 yards, the passing game was quietly very conservative and managed to protect Daniels from having to sit in the pocket and make complex reads, but nobody notices that unless you really watch closely because of the narratives that take shape. That strategy lasts as long as you have a historic 4th down conversion % that lasts all season and your QB is fresh enough to handle 8-10 carries a game, but that's never going to be a recipe that lasts for the long term.

That and I don’t think Dan is a very good HC. His sweet spot is DC but the Redskins I guess didn’t see it that way.
He’s also built a D a little like he had in Dallas, although he was gifted Payne and did have some DE talent last year.

Simpleton · Monday at 9:19 AM

UncleMilti said:
That and I don’t think Dan is a very good HC. His sweet spot is DC but the Redskins I guess didn’t see it that way.
He’s also built a D a little like he had in Dallas, although he was gifted Payne and did have some DE talent last year.

Very true, their defense is exactly like ours when he was here, high risk/high reward, all boom/bust. Our defenses were better because we had a future HOF'er in Parsons and more talent at CB, but aside from that they're very similar.

When they're playing from ahead and/or when they're playing a shitty offense, they look great with how aggressive they are pressuring the QB.

When they play better opponents and/or are in more neutral game situations they struggle and look like a bottom 10 defense.

Chocolate Lab · Monday at 9:19 AM

Plan9Misfit said:
At least Olsen knows how to break down a play without sounding like a pompous douche.

Olsen isn't Madden or anything, but he's okay. Brady is so bad it actually distracts from the game.

UncleMilti · Monday at 9:23 AM

Cowboysrock55 said:
The thing with the Jets game is the run defense actually looked like shit. It just didn't matter because of our lead. And that carried over to the Panthers game where the run defense was beyond pathetic. This Redskins game at least felt like we got back to doing that right. And while fixing the run we did better in coverage in large part because we started to run man coverage. Granted it's easier to run man coverage against a bunch of nobodies as opposed to elite receivers. But I'd rather die trying to cover guys and getting beat as opposed to just covering no one in zone coverage.

Hopefully Eberflus will redesign the D around playing man coverage. It’s what the personnel does best. I also think this is a completely different D with a true pass rusher at DE. I think we have the guys at DT and other guys who can get to the QB if there’s a stud DE on that line. Theres not been a lot of pressure on opposing QBs this year so far.

But like always, the Retardo Twins are a day late and a dollar short. Dak is playing lights out and Williams at RB is the best we’ve had in years.

The D is probably the reason this season goes in the shitter at some point.

Simpleton · Monday at 9:29 AM

UncleMilti said:
Hopefully Eberflus will redesign the D around playing man coverage. It’s what the personnel does best. I also think this is a completely different D with a true pass rusher at DE. I think we have the guys at DT and other guys who can get to the QB if there’s a stud DE on that line. Theres not been a lot of pressure on opposing QBs this year so far.

But like always, the Retardo Twins are a day late and a dollar short. Dak is playing lights out and Williams at RB is the best we’ve had in years.

The D is probably the reason this season goes in the shitter at some point.

At this point I'd give up a 1 for Crosby, no questions asked.

It's not about this year necessarily, although I could see us making noise with him potentially, it's more about maximizing the next 2-3 years where Crosby will still be in his prime.

mcnuttz · Monday at 9:36 AM

Simpleton said:
Another thing about Washington that I mentioned on one of the random podcasts that we did in the offseason with @boozeman and @mcnuttz is that they've kind of worked themselves into a shoot based on the unexpected run they made last year.

They actually believed they were that caliber of a team and traded resources for aging vets (Tunsil is 31, Deebo will be 30 in January) despite the fact that their roster isn't actually that talented to begin with. Not to mention trading a 3 for Lattimore last year who is completely washed.

If you take Daniels off the table who are their best 5 players? McLaurin who is 30, Bobby Wagner who is like 36, Luvu who is like 29, and Tunsil/Deebo who are pushing 30+.

They have very little top-end talent on the roster, which got ignored because of their run, and then they went and traded a bunch of picks for aging dudes who will be done in about 2 years. Now they're out both their 2nd and 4th next year (on top of picks in this past draft) and who do they have on the roster that they can really bank on as cornerstones for the next 5+ years?

Yes sir, you called it!

Cujo · Monday at 10:11 AM

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UncleMilti said:
Olsen and Brady both have the most faggotty voices on TV, especially given the fact they are ex NFL players.

I would like to nominate Chris Collingsworth to this discussion. His voice almost makes the game unwatchable. I mute him frequently.

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