2024 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · Mar 28, 2024

boozeman said:
I have no idea why this stupid meme made me laugh but it did.

That was good dur thread material right there

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · Mar 28, 2024

Cowboysrock55 said:
The sad thing is that sometimes the solution is to trade those valuable players away for draft picks that have cheap contracts. If you don't want to spend money than stack your roster with as many players as possible still on rookie deals. Instead we never do that. We cling to those players for everything they are worth until they leave and we get nothing or almost nothing in return.

I can’t help but agree ….the player turnover rate is surprisingly low for a team who hasn’t done it right for close to 30 years ..which means they are holding on way to long .

boozeman · Mar 28, 2024

Cowboysrock55 said:
The sad thing is that sometimes the solution is to trade those valuable players away for draft picks that have cheap contracts. If you don't want to spend money than stack your roster with as many players as possible still on rookie deals. Instead we never do that. We cling to those players for everything they are worth until they leave and we get nothing or almost nothing in return.

Our issue is organizational ineptitude. We draft well in general but squander the lifecycle of player’s contracts. We can’t trade because we lack the relationships and ability to negotiate. Nobody can ever justify dropping a first on Amari and then turn around and sell a quality player like a cheap whore. And that is the most recent example they have where they actually got something tangible in trade.

p1_ · Mar 28, 2024

Cowboysrock55 said:
The sad thing is that sometimes the solution is to trade those valuable players away for draft picks that have cheap contracts. If you don't want to spend money than stack your roster with as many players as possible still on rookie deals. Instead we never do that. We cling to those players for everything they are worth until they leave and we get nothing or almost nothing in return.

You don’t value the comp picks?

Genghis Khan · Mar 28, 2024

p1_ said:
You don’t value the comp picks?

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · Mar 28, 2024

p1_ said:
You don’t value the comp picks?

Said the Olawale’s of the world never …..

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · Mar 28, 2024

Genghis Khan said:

Fuckin snake oil salesman.. shove that thumb up your ass like ya did all free agency long

Cowboysrock55 · Mar 28, 2024

p1_ said:
You don’t value the comp picks?

We don't even manage to get that good of comp picks. They are always fifth, sixth and seventh round picks. We had a fourth once that I can remember.

Don't get me wrong, I love having extra draft picks. But maybe try to maximize the amount of picks instead of getting the bare minimum. If you have too many star players to fit them all under the cap (I don't agree this is the case) then trade away a fucking star player for some high draft picks. Use those to go get cheap star players. This isn't rocket science. You've already basically said this team isn't competing for a Superbowl over the next two years. Why not speed the process up?

Landry · Mar 28, 2024

Is it just me or does anyone else think we end up third in the NFC east, since we're all in?

Cotton · Mar 28, 2024

Chocolate Lab said:
Like a lot?

Yes, like a lot. :lol

Genghis Khan · Mar 28, 2024

Landry said:
Is it just me or does anyone else think we end up third in the NFC east, since we're all in?

I think Washington would have to hit a HR at QB for us to finish 3rd. I'm not actually convinced that Philly has passed us to be honest, although their DC frightens and confuses me.

Genghis Khan · Mar 28, 2024

Cowboysrock55 said:
We don't even manage to get that good of comp picks. They are always fifth, sixth and seventh round picks. We had a fourth once that I can remember.

Don't get me wrong, I love having extra draft picks. But maybe try to maximize the amount of picks instead of getting the bare minimum. If you have too many star players to fit them all under the cap (I don't agree this is the case) then trade away a fucking star player for some high draft picks. Use those to go get cheap star players. This isn't rocket science. You've already basically said this team isn't competing for a Superbowl over the next two years. Why not speed the process up?

I actually like targeting comp picks as a general strategy.

But there should be a happy medium lest we lose sight of the whole purpose of trying to accumulate comp picks, which is more chances at upgrading the roster.

Sometimes spending in free agency can upgrade your roster more than 3 comp picks would.

Wasting significant cap dollars on mediocre free agents is not a good way to upgrade the roster, but never spending in free agency isn't a good way to upgrade the roster either.

Simpleton · Mar 28, 2024

Genghis Khan said:
I think Washington would have to hit a HR at QB for us to finish 3rd. I'm not actually convinced that Philly has passed us to be honest, although their DC frightens and confuses me.

The upgrade in Fangio is counteracted by Moore becoming their OC.

We're in a strange spot because I think on paper we're still probably the best team in the division but it's kind of a house of cards because we have little to no OL depth and the DL is in shambles. We're also completely reliant on Diggs coming back near 100% and not being a Gallup or Steele.

If any of those things go sideways I could see us finishing 3rd if either the Giants or Skins get a little luck with the upgrades they've made, particularly the Giants.

p1_ · Mar 28, 2024

Cowboysrock55 said:
You've already basically said this team isn't competing for a Superbowl over the next two years.

Joe Fan didnt catch that part. He/she/they think Jerry is 'all in' for winning.

son of deadrise · Mar 28, 2024

Genghis Khan said:
I think Washington would have to hit a HR at QB for us to finish 3rd. I'm not actually convinced that Philly has passed us to be honest, although their DC frightens and confuses me.

The difference is at least Philly is trying. Presumably Jeffrey Laurie is not calculating roster decisions through the lens of of how they may affect his ancillary businesses. The purpose of an NFL franchise is to win games, not serve as a cash cow feeding investment decisions in unrelated businesses that deliver higher returns.

Genghis Khan · Mar 29, 2024

son of deadrise said:
The difference is at least Philly is trying. Presumably Jeffrey Laurie is not calculating roster decisions through the lens of of how they may affect his ancillary businesses. The purpose of an NFL franchise is to win games, not serve as a cash cow feeding investment decisions in unrelated businesses that deliver higher returns.

All true.

ravidubey · Mar 29, 2024

son of deadrise said:
The purpose of an NFL franchise is to win games, not serve as a cash cow feeding investment decisions in unrelated businesses that deliver higher returns.

Built in conflict of interest in separating these two concepts when the GM is also the owner/cash guzzler

Irving Cowboy · Mar 29, 2024

It's Fisher, so take it for what it's worth:

Chocolate Lab · Mar 29, 2024

Ugh... I actually used to listen to Fisher in the 90s on KLIF after Norm's show... he always trashed Jimmy and defended Jerry.

He used that stupid bell on his show, too. Guess some things never change.

Genghis Khan · Mar 29, 2024

Irving Cowboy said:
It's Fisher, so take it for what it's worth:

What am I missing here?

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