2023 Cowboys Free Agency

Cowboysrock55

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Cutting Smith in order to keep McGovern would be 100% for money reasons and exactly how you make your team worse.

Smith is probably 10 times the quality of player that McGovern is.

Even if they keep Smith's salary at 17 (which I'm not sure is likely) he's worth it over McGovern at 8 or any price.

And in practical terms, unless I'm mistaken I believe that cutting Tyron would save about 9 million dollars. Which means cutting Tyron then signing McGovern at 8 would net you about $1 million in savings. Even if I were inclined to consider it, $1 million savings is almost nothing, certainly not worth the big gap in ability.
You're wrong on Smith. Paying a guy 17 mil for 8 games or less is why you can't afford real free agents. Especially when the guy isn't even your best LT in my opinion. That's the equivalent on a per game basis of giving your LT 34 mil a season. It's just dumb. And you jist guaranteed an Oline shuffle at some point during the season.

Not saying we should have resigned McGovern but holding on to washed up vets at astronomical prices is why we can't go sign a stud DT in free agency or stud anything for that matter.
 

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You're wrong on Smith. Paying a guy 17 mil for 8 games or less is why you can't afford real free agents. Especially when the guy isn't even your best LT in my opinion. That's the equivalent on a per game basis of giving your LT 34 mil a season. It's just dumb. And you jist guaranteed an Oline shuffle at some point during the season.

Not saying we should have resigned McGovern but holding on to washed up vets at astronomical prices is why we can't go sign a stud DT in free agency or stud anything for that matter.

I agree with keeping and even restructuring Smith (he's shown a big willingness to be team friendly in the past) but that's a separate issue from McGovern.

I disagree with him being why you can't afford free agents. He's made 17 million like 3 times, most of the time his cap hit was much less. And even at 17 million that's not unreasonable generally for a top tier LT.

I get the injury concerns but I think he's good enough to be worth the risk. Especially when they have a potential young stud in Tyler to move in there whenever he is needed and has shown no I'll effects from the shuffling.

Finding a cheap replacement level guard to plug in a couple times is not among my many concerns about this team. It's one of the easiest things to find in football.
 

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And even at 17 million that's not unreasonable generally for a top tier LT.
He hasn't been a top tier LT for over three years. Hell the guy has started a total of 33% of the games over that period of time. So yes, he is a perfect example of a guy you should move on from because you're wasting cap space. Especially when you presumably could get a starting guard for half the price who will start all 17 games. You're just throwing cap dollars in the trash and then claiming there is no pie left.

Now you are right. Doesn't have much to do with McGovern. I was ok letting him go at that price. We also have the cap to resign him if we wanted to. So yeah, they aren't really connected. Except I would rather get a legit LG at 8-10 mil than to keep a washed up vet around in Smith. And I love the guy but he isn't an elite LT anymore and he plays like a third of the games. That equals washed up in my opinion.

Two old vets who are washed up for different reasons, Zeke and Tyron are counting 33mil against your cap. They are almost a zero value add. And yet we are going to bitch that we have a franchise QB who costs like 23 mil against our cap next season. This is just an example of how a team fucks up the salary cap.

The good news is I think they will eventually reduce those numbers. But the simple answer is they should just move on and take them totally off the books going forward.
 

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The safety market is interesting because there's a number of quality guys available in Bates, Thornhill, Rapp, Gardner-Johnson, and Bell (signed by Panthers), I'm hoping this dilutes the market for Wilson and we can bring him back for something like 3 years/20 mil.
 

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Especially when you presumably could get a starting guard for half the price who will start all 17 games. You're just throwing cap dollars in the trash and then claiming there is no pie left.

Again, it's not half the CAP price, it's about a million dollars in cap savings for a significant downgrade. No thanks.
 

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Again, it's not half the CAP price, it's about a million dollars in cap savings for a significant downgrade. No thanks.
You say cap savings. I say Tyron costs 17 mil.

The reality is actually in between. He earns 13.6 mil next year. The other 4 is money already paid that we can never get back. So by cutting or trading him we save the 13.6. Which is what, 6 mil more than McGovern got?

The rest of the money is hitting the books at some point no matter what we do. Just depends on when.
 

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You say cap savings. I say Tyron costs 17 mil.

The reality is actually in between. He earns 13.6 mil next year. The other 4 is money already paid that we can never get back. So by cutting or trading him we save the 13.6. Which is what, 6 mil more than McGovern got?

The rest of the money is hitting the books at some point no matter what we do. Just depends on when.

His cap hit right now is 17 million. I'm seeing if cut his cap hit becomes 8 million in dead money, which means we'd save 9 million against the cap. Which is a little over 1 million more than McGovern got AAV.
 

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