Firing McCarthy

What would it take to warrant firing McCarthy?

  • Doesn't matter what happens tonight, he should go if we don't make the NFCC

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Chocolate Lab

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Every few years, Garrett would win the East and fans would ask "How could you fire him?" We're in that same rut with McCarthy. He wins just enough to keep his job and give you hope.
Rut? Surely you admit no coach could have won in 2020 with all the injuries.

So this is only the second year of even having a chance, and it's not over yet.

Who would be your choice for coach? Payton?
 

Simpleton

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Every few years, Garrett would win the East and fans would ask "How could you fire him?" We're in that same rut with McCarthy. He wins just enough to keep his job and give you hope.
The back to back playoff appearances and back to back double digit win seasons is a significant difference compared to Garrett.

You're also leaving out the fact that Garrett went 8-8 and missed the playoffs his first 3 years, that was the rut that he barely squeaked his way out of. McCarthy on the other hand has come in and accomplished something that this dysfunctional organization hadn't done in 15 and 25 years respectively within his first 3 years.

That's meaningful and significantly better than what we got out of Garrett.
 

Rev

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You saw how hard it was for Jerry to move on from Garrett and even still he almost didn't do it. Last night's win assured McCarthey a few years.
 

bbgun

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Rut? Surely you admit no coach could have won in 2020 with all the injuries.

So this is only the second year of even having a chance, and it's not over yet.

Who would be your choice for coach? Payton?
Maybe "quandary" is a better word. I still don't know what McCarthy does, exactly. Call the plays? No. Coach up the defense? No. Get in players' faces when they fuck up? No. Work the refs to our advantage? No. He's a passive onlooker, like Switzer. On Hard Knocks, he was about as inspirational as Bob Dole. This is probably moot now, but I'd replace him with a coordinator who's had success without an elite QB. Major exception: Moore & Rush.
 

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Every few years, Garrett would win the East and fans would ask "How could you fire him?" We're in that same rut with McCarthy. He wins just enough to keep his job and give you hope.
After three years where the first year was a cluster of Covid, not allowed the normal extras a new coach would get, injuries, and a historically bad defense followed by two 12-win seasons?
 

bbgun

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After three years where the first year was a cluster of Covid, not allowed the normal extras a new coach would get, injuries, and a historically bad defense followed by two 12-win seasons?
We've been down this road with Wade, who got us to the playoffs in 2007 and 2009. Got his extension and was gone less than a year later. Like Mike, he was an affable guy. Amounted to nothing.
 

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The back to back playoff appearances and back to back double digit win seasons is a significant difference compared to Garrett.

You're also leaving out the fact that Garrett went 8-8 and missed the playoffs his first 3 years, that was the rut that he barely squeaked his way out of. McCarthy on the other hand has come in and accomplished something that this dysfunctional organization hadn't done in 15 and 25 years respectively within his first 3 years.

That's meaningful and significantly better than what we got out of Garrett.
McCarthy has had a better start hear than Parcells did.

I said what I said.
 

Cotton

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Maybe "quandary" is a better word. I still don't know what McCarthy does, exactly. Call the plays? No. Coach up the defense? No. Get in players' faces when they fuck up? No. Work the refs to our advantage? No. He's a passive onlooker, like Switzer. On Hard Knocks, he was about as inspirational as Bob Dole. This is probably moot now, but I'd replace him with a coordinator who's had success without an elite QB. Major exception: Moore & Rush.
You know who else didn't get in the face of players on the sideline? Landry.
 

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Yes but Parcells also inherited a roster that was a function of peak-Jerry dysfunction. Parcells would've gotten us to a NFCC for sure if you gave him a few years with a roster like this.
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Yeah I mean calling plays on GameDay is only a fraction of what happens. I'm sure that McCarthy has a lot of input in the offense. He manages the whole team and coaches. It's not just about calling plays.
Coaches coach with different personnel strategies much like we manage our own employees differently. One person is not like the next and need to be handled differently. I'm sure it's a lot of work.
 

boozeman

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Yes but Parcells also inherited a roster that was a function of peak-Jerry dysfunction. Parcells would've gotten us to a NFCC for sure if you gave him a few years with a roster like this.
Parcells did not have the stones to carry out his contract. He was miserable, couldn't find a good cannoli and he really wasn't driven to win another SB at all costs.
 
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