Machota: Cowboys embarrassed at home - Zeke Elliott hurting offense, 9 other takeaways

[Simpleton]

Jesus Christ, Taylor Hicks, I hadn't heard the name or thought about that weird fuck in what feels like 20 years.

 

[NoDak]

And where the fuck is Taylor Hicks now?

In a hole down in sbk’s basement, rubbing lotion on his skin.

 

[Smitty]

And Kaepernick also had the benefit of being in an offense that was on the forefront of the RPO revolution taking the league by storm, having one of the best offensive designers in the game, and excellent overall infrastructure on both offense and defense.

As I said, earlier, you have to take into account the context and extenuating circumstances.

You can put whatever context on it you want.

Prescott was not good in 2017 or the first half of 2018. His on field performance, for whatever reason, system or otherwise, more closely mirrored 2002-03 Quincy Carter and 2012-14 Colin Kaepernick in nearly all stats, than it did above-average quality NFL starters of 2017-18. That doesn't mean I would have traded 24 year old Prescott for 30 year old Andy Dalton or 28 year old Tyrod Taylor, because Prescott was younger and had potential, but the fact remains that is the tier he was in.... with busts and journeymen.... at that time.

If his performance of 2017-18 had continued, he would not be in Dallas right now. He was not good. His contract would have expired and he'd be gone.

The point to acknowledge here is that it wasn't some blip. He put together a run of poor games that outnumbered substantially his quality performances of 2016 (which also were not exactly great; more efficient and bus-drivery though, but he was not winning those 2016 games on his arm either, nonetheless). By game 7 of 2018, the only reasonable interpretation of Prescott was, a fourth round pick who enjoyed a magical rookie year supported by a solid defense and excellent OL/running game, who came crashing down to earth once teams got footage on him, and he was forced to carry more of the load himself rather than his supporting cast, and that he was not going to last.

A lot of QBs who hit that tailspin, especially slightly undertalented mid round picks, would never recover from that. They'd burn out and be done.

Prescott figured enough out, perhaps helped by a timely comfort move to add Amari Cooper, that he was able to develop after 2.5 years in the league into more than what he was prior.

It's a huge success story and we are the beneficiaries such that at least now we don't have to be pressing to find a QB replacement. Granted, we now have another dilemma - I think he's a top 10 QB but not a top 3 QB, but he wants to be paid like the latter. That's another big problem.

 

[Genghis Khan]

No, Dak was not a top 15 QB in 2017 or the first half of 2018.

So what I said was true... for a year or two (sometime in between that amount of time), Dak was a bottom 15 QB. His numbers reflected Quincy Carter and Colin Kaepernick way more closely than a top 10-15 QB.

Luckily for us he's improved and developed.

I had him ranked about 18-21 back in 2017 - early 2018.

 

[NoDak]

No, Dak was not a top 15 QB in 2017 or the first half of 2018.

Well, to be fair, I was 47-48 years old during those seasons.

 

[data]

Using that logic......

True statement - Troy Aikman was a Bottom 5 QB for 2 years (1989 a 1990), not just a couple of games.

 

[jsmith6919]

Using that logic......

True statement - Troy Aikman was a Bottom 5 QB for 2 years (1989 a 1990), not just a couple of games.

 

[p1_]

Aman

 

[data]

I’m rooting for Mitch Trubisky to come here.

The spin-tertainment would be endlessly priceless.

“Mitch’s Bottom 5 performance is better than Daks Bottom 15 because...”

 

[Smitty]

Using that logic......

True statement - Troy Aikman was a Bottom 5 QB for 2 years (1989 a 1990), not just a couple of games.

Yeah, that might be true. Do you have a point?

 

[data]

Yeah, that might be true. Do you have a point?

It strengthens yours, which was made valiantly, pick up the fallen sword, to defend sbk‘s honor.

Your fortune cookie speaks wells of your nobility. 24 - 13 - 17 - 41 - 6 - 10

 

[shoop]

4-8-15-16-23-42

 

[ravidubey]

Every QB takes time to develop. Tom Brady took two years before becoming the player he was meant to be on the last drive of the 2001-2002 Superbowl. Peyton Manning fired a crap ton of interceptions as a rookie. Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench doing jack squat for three seasons.

Dak was carried as a rookie, hit growing pains his next two years and matured in 2019.

The cooked product isn't a creative guy who drives safeties out of the box, so there still is a lot of stuff to work on, but to his credit he got where he got without any defense whatsoever.

Of course he had every other advantage with offensive skill support. Now he'll have to lead the team with his receiving corps and a still strong OL next year. I have every confidence we can fix the running game by then, but he'll have to learn to pass to set up the run.

Main thing is fixing our pathetic DT situation.

 

[Simpleton]

They need to sign DJ Jones, Sheldon Rankins or Dalvin Tomlinson for about 9/year.

It's sure as shit better than paying Daryl Worley 3, Darian Thompson 1.2, Maurice Canady 1.2 and Jamize Olawale 1.7.

If not for COVID we would've had $7.1 million going to those 4 fucking scrubs who are nothing but decent depth at best. You could easily sign a top FA to a 3-4 year deal with their first year cap hit being about 7 but instead they want to sign multiple pieces of shit who provide nearly no value.

 

[p1_]

They need to sign DJ Jones, Sheldon Rankins or Dalvin Tomlinson for about 9/year.

It's sure as shit better than paying Daryl Worley 3, Darian Thompson 1.2, Maurice Canady 1.2 and Jamize Olawale 1.7.

If not for COVID we would've had $7.1 million going to those 4 fucking scrubs who are nothing but decent depth at best. You could easily sign a top FA to a 3-4 year deal with their first year cap hit being about 7 but instead they want to sign multiple pieces of shit who provide nearly no value.

add in Crawford's money as another misspent contract

 

[Cowboysrock55]

add in Crawford's money as another misspent contract

Crawford pisses me off. But now he is one of many.