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Garrett wouldn't do any better down Prescott, Smith, Collins (Frederick as well?), on top of a whole smattering of defensive players, so please keep your Garrett bullshit to yourself as he coordinates literally the worst offense in the league.

This is what kills me every time someone invokes the name of Garrett when it comes to the Cowboys.

Garrett is in charge of the worst offense in football yet clowns are dropping "Miss me yet?" Garrett memes and shit. :lol

Uh, no. We don't miss you.
 
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It feels that way doesn’t it? They always seem to be involved in one historical debacle after another.
we had a HUGE thread at another forum that posted all the insane shitty records that were broken during Garretts tenure, of course that will continue because jeri & spawn aint going no where and they're the stank that taints everyone
 

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:lol right back at you

You want to pretend this shitshow of a season started with Dak's injury? Sure. Let's pretend that.

Look I don't want Garrett back but that doesn't excuse this fucking disaster.
I never said anything about that. But good on ya, I guess.
 

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Garrett certainly is looking better by comparison. But he is sucking in NY this year. Has to have filet mignon at every spot to succeed criticism is very valid for Garrett.

As for the team quitting on McCarthy, what was that last night?
The 2015 season tells you all you need to know about Garrett's coaching ability when it comes to coping with adversity. That was a team that was just coming off a 12-4 season the year prior, so the talent was there even without Romo for them to put up a few more wins than they did.
 

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Yes, although "unknown" is a relative term.

Basically every top HC in the league right now joined their team directly as an assistant from another team without being a HC elsewhere first. Last year Greg Roman was my top choice, he'd still be my top choice along with Bieniemy, and it certainly may not work as you allude to, but that's what the NFL is.

And to be clear, if the season were to stop tomorrow I wouldn't get rid of McCarthy, I still think he can come back from this, but if the team continues on this trajectory the rest of the year you really can't keep him.
Yeah, I'm not officially off the McCarthy bandwagon.

This is very bad though.
 

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I never said anything about that. But good on ya, I guess.
You excused McCarthy's record for injuries. It's a part for sure, but this level of ineptitude just isn't excusable. We're setting all kinds of records for defensive incompetence. These are real records too. Not the losing by 14 points in the 4th quarter with 2:01 seconds left and still manage to lose in regulation with 3 seconds left on the clock bullshit. Like points scored, yards given up, TO ratio, etc...major markers of efficiency.

Now honestly, I blame Nolan most of all for this shit show but somebody had to hire this numbskull. He had a trackrecord and it wasn't a good one.
 

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The 2015 season tells you all you need to know about Garrett's coaching ability when it comes to coping with adversity. That was a team that was just coming off a 12-4 season the year prior, so the talent was there even without Romo for them to put up a few more wins than they did.
Fair enough though he certainly didn't have Andy Dalton as a backup. However, had we stood pat at the coaching position, do you really think we would be 2-4 right now? I honestly think we wouldn't be. Marinelli/Rachard were average at best, but that is light years beyond what Nolan is giving us. Again, I certainly don't want Garrett back but this shit is not fucking OK...
 

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But from what I've seen thus far, I would not be against wiping the entire staff and starting completely over if these sorts of performances and embarrassments continue through the end of the season.
The obvious answer is this team needs a strong personality to hold them accountable, but we all know that won't happen while Jerry Jones is still alive. A lot of these guys are obviously talented but they have gotten fat and lazy since they've been paid. There needs to be a real kick in the ass and coaches need to start holding players accountable. If this were the Patriots, Zeke wouldn't have been allowed back on the field after the 2nd fumble.....just ask Brian Hoyer and other Patriots players who have been benched for repeated mistakes. That's the kind of HC we need. One who isn't afraid to get in the face of high-priced vets who are mailing it in.

Also, being under the umbrella of the Cowboys' brand doesn't help either. These guys come to Dallas and because they're playing in nationally televised and prime time games all the time, they think they've made it. Fame and adoration comes entirely too easy for Cowboys players.
 
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Fair enough though he certainly didn't have Andy Dalton as a backup. However, had we stood pat at the coaching position, do you really think we would be 2-4 right now? I honestly think we wouldn't be. Marinelli/Rachard were average at best, but that is light years beyond what Nolan is giving us. Again, I certainly don't want Garrett back but this shit is not fucking OK...
Nolan is a clear step down from Marinelli and Richard who were average at best defensive coaches. That's what's earned them the 2-4 record.

It's 100% McCarthy's fault though since he's the one who hired Nolan. If McCarthy would have done some actual homework and actually hired the most qualified coach rather than just looking to take care of his buddy, this Cowboys team even with some middle of the road defensive coach is probably sitting at 4-2 right now.
 

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Personally, I am very much hoping the Vikes fire Zimmer and we snatch him up to replace Nolan. He's very much on the hot seat in Minnesota. Now would he want to walk into this shit show? Well...Jerry's money spends pretty well...

If we keep McCarthy I'd very much support this, although something tells me Zimmer and Edwards aren't going to work together here.
 

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Fair enough though he certainly didn't have Andy Dalton as a backup. However, had we stood pat at the coaching position, do you really think we would be 2-4 right now? I honestly think we wouldn't be. Marinelli/Rachard were average at best, but that is light years beyond what Nolan is giving us. Again, I certainly don't want Garrett back but this shit is not fucking OK...
I think given the problems at left and right tackle alone, considering how he handled similar issues in the past, we'd have 2 or fewer wins right now if Garrett was HC.
 

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Nolan is a clear step down from Marinelli and Richard who were average at best defensive coaches. That's what's earned them the 2-4 record.

It's 100% McCarthy's fault though since he's the one who hired Nolan. If McCarthy would have done some actual homework and actually hired the most qualified coach rather than just looking to take care of his buddy, this Cowboys team even with some middle of the road defensive coach is probably sitting at 4-2 right now.

Hell, he brought in George Edwards. I'd guess Edwards would be a better option than Nolan right now.
 

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I think given the problems at left and right tackle alone, considering how he handled similar issues in the past, we'd have 2 or fewer wins right now if Garrett was HC.
Garrett couldn't even handle losing one OT much less two. And unless you think McCarthy has somehow coached Zeke to suddenly fumble a bunch I don't think Garrett ever had to deal with Zeke doing this shit.
 

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Garrett couldn't even handle losing one OT much less two. And unless you think McCarthy has somehow coached Zeke to suddenly fumble a bunch I don't think Garrett ever had to deal with Zeke doing this shit.
Well fortunately Knight and Steele aren't Chaz Green. Not that they're great but they aren't turnstyles most of the time. I'm not actually seeing KM doing a lot to protect them. Of course you can't protect both your tackles and run a downfield passing offense.

Given how well the offense was playing both last year and this year the biggest issue is the defense. Yes the offense has turned the ball over but the points scored have been excellent for the most part. The defense is the biggest issue, clearly, with offensive turnovers being a secondary, albeit also critical concern.

Anyway this is an argument about nothing as neither of us think the prior or the current coaching staff was/is getting it done.
 

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we had a HUGE thread at another forum that posted all the insane shitty records that were broken during Garretts tenure, of course that will continue because jeri & spawn aint going no where and they're the stank that taints everyone
Jerry has 3 super bowl rings and a national championship ring (as a starting player). I will concede he has payed the wrong guys (zeke dlaw) but you clowns that blame him for what is obv mostly on the players is the most lol shit. Get back to flipping burgers homey
 
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