Dak Watch Thread...

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Yes, and we get that you are a Dak fanboy. I’m far from the only person who is warning this contract would be a significant overpayment.
I am definitely concerned about the contract and it doesn't even have much to do with how good Dak is or isn't.

There is no question that there's a percentage of the cap that you can't go over for one player if you want to win.
 

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Then that should be an easy decision for the team. Just sign the fucking 4 year deal and be done with it.
Yea, it's hilarious because if it were me (as the team) I'd prefer the 4 year deal as well. It ties you down for less time and allows you to get out of it earlier if you want, and if he continues to prove himself over the next 4 years as a top-tier QB you're happy to pay him again after the 4 years anyway.

I guess if you have unwavering (some might call it naive) belief in Dak you'd rather get 5 years to buy yourself another year of somewhat cheaper control, but at this point that's a leap of faith.

At least enough of a leap of faith that if the only sticking point is 4 vs. 5 years you just say fuck it and go with 4.
 

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Yea, it's hilarious because if it were me (as the team) I'd prefer the 4 year deal as well. It ties you down for less time and allows you to get out of it earlier if you want, and if he continues to prove himself over the next 4 years as a top-tier QB you're happy to pay him again after the 4 years anyway.

I guess if you have unwavering (some might call it naive) belief in Dak you'd rather get 5 years to buy yourself another year of somewhat cheaper control, but at this point that's a leap of faith.

At least enough of a leap of faith that if the only sticking point is 4 vs. 5 years you just say fuck it and go with 4.
Yeah I mean Dak's agent clearly doesn't want the 5th year and if he does he wants him paid in year 5 like the first 4 went great. Like I mentioned, do the fifth year as a team option at 45 and deal with it when the time comes.
 

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Yeah I mean Dak's agent clearly doesn't want the 5th year and if he does he wants him paid in year 5 like the first 4 went great. Like I mentioned, do the fifth year as a team option at 45 and deal with it when the time comes.
Yea, why not?

This all just seems like posturing for something everybody knows will get done about 48 hours before the deadline.
 

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Yea, why not?

This all just seems like posturing for something everybody knows will get done about 48 hours before the deadline.
Stephen prefers reading "Dak's Greedy!" stories rather than "Stephen's an Incompetent Negotiator" in the interim.
 

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$35M is 17.7% of today's $198M salary cap.

Using the 28% growth of the salary cap over the last four years, this trends to a $233M salary cap in 2023 (Year 4 of Dak's contract).

$35M in 2023 would be 15.0% of the salary cap.

15% of today's $198M salary cap translates into $29.8M, which is what Ryan Tannehill signed for.
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If Dak wants to be paid 17.66% overall of the next four years of salary cap, it'd average out to $38M-per-year.
 

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$35M is 17.7% of today's $198M salary cap.

Using the 28% growth of the salary cap over the last four years, this trends to a $233M salary cap in 2023 (Year 4 of Dak's contract).

$35M in 2023 would be 15.0% of the salary cap.

15% of today's $198M salary cap translates into $29.8M, which is what Ryan Tannehill signed for.
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If Dak wants to be paid 17.66% overall of the next four years of salary cap, it'd average out to $38M-per-year.
By comparisons sake, I would be much more concerned about giving Tannehill 15% than giving Dak 17 or 18%
 

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Yes, and we get that you are a Dak fanboy. I’m far from the only person who is warning this contract would be a significant overpayment.
Agreed!
The league is no longer about contracts based on performance and accomplishment. It's about "Is this guy average/maybe above average? If so, make him the highest paid player at his position or lose him". This applies to QB's more than any other position, as we all know.
 

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Agreed!
The league is no longer about contracts based on performance and accomplishment. It's about "Is this guy average/maybe above average? If so, make him the highest paid player at his position or lose him". This applies to QB's more than any other position, as we all know.
Cap hell doesn't appear to be such a thing anymore either with all the built in flexibility of the cap
 

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45 million dollars a year. I don't give a damn who you are. Nobody is worth that much.

It's already hard enough for a family of 4 to go to a game. Salaries keep spiraling upwards like this, and the only ones that can afford to go to a game will be rich people. The middle class will be squeezed out. Then, when they stop going to games, the cost will still be passed on to them via TV. The games will become pay per view. And the day that happens, is the last day I will watch the NFL.
 

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45 million dollars a year. I don't give a damn who you are. Nobody is worth that much.

It's already hard enough for a family of 4 to go to a game. Salaries keep spiraling upwards like this, and the only ones that can afford to go to a game will be rich people. The middle class will be squeezed out. Then, when they stop going to games, the cost will still be passed on to them via TV. The games will become pay per view. And the day that happens, is the last day I will watch the NFL.
How much of that is revenue from tickets and how much is other stuff like TV contracts. Just curious how much it's ticket sales that are really driving the salary cap up. Seems like it's more a result of TV contracts and other stuff.
 

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45 million dollars a year. I don't give a damn who you are. Nobody is worth that much.

It's already hard enough for a family of 4 to go to a game. Salaries keep spiraling upwards like this, and the only ones that can afford to go to a game will be rich people. The middle class will be squeezed out. Then, when they stop going to games, the cost will still be passed on to them via TV. The games will become pay per view. And the day that happens, is the last day I will watch the NFL.
Dak sure thinks he is. I don't care how much anyone likes him, that's simply not acceptable IMO.
 

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Dak sure thinks he is. I don't care how much anyone likes him, that's simply not acceptable IMO.
Well how much are they really worth playing a game?

45 is going to be the norm in a few years as salaries escalate anyways. I dont know or care how much he gets paid. Just tired of hearing about it and want to get it over with already.
 

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Well how much are they really worth playing a game?

45 is going to be the norm in a few years as salaries escalate anyways. I dont know or care how much he gets paid. Just tired of hearing about it and want to get it over with already.
This is where I'm at. Just tired of talking about it. We all know its getting done, so get it done.
 
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