The Coronavirus Thread...

[Chocolate Lab]

So this was scary. Had a guy with a fever and abdominal pain today. So I figure, no COVID but since I'm scanning his belly, I'll just take a look-see at his lungs while I'm at it. You have to keep a high index of suspicion. Boom. COVID. Well, likely anyway. The swab test will tell in 24-28 hours. I sprinted to tell the RN and she's in there with a surgical mask and gloves. I told her to put her damn N95 on.

Are you getting more masks than you were, or did you figure out a good way to sanitize them yet?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yeah totally different type of crisis. I expect the economy to come back to strong levels when this thing is done but there is really nothing to do to fix the unemployment rate when every state is basically telling large parts of their workforce that they can't work. It's not rocket science, of course unemployment is going to go up if you tell those people to be unemployed by order of imprisonment. On the other hand as long as this doesn't do irreparable harm to businesses things should bounce back. It's why they are offering SBA loans to businesses like mine to keep us afloat while this thing is going on. All the government can do right now it try to keep the businesses alive while they basically force them to shut down. Luckily for myself I'm not dipping my toes in that money because I'm still able to work and keep some money coming in.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

Yeah totally different type of crisis. I expect the economy to come back to strong levels when this thing is done but there is really nothing to do to fix the unemployment rate when every state is basically telling large parts of their workforce that they can't work. It's not rocket science, of course unemployment is going to go up if you tell those people to be unemployed by order of imprisonment. On the other hand as long as this doesn't do irreparable harm to businesses things should bounce back. It's why they are offering SBA loans to businesses like mine to keep us afloat while this thing is going on. All the government can do right now it try to keep the businesses alive while they basically force them to shut down. Luckily for myself I'm not dipping my toes in that money because I'm still able to work and keep some money coming in.

Like I said yesterday, I'm not a big fan of bailouts, but in this case it is palatable, because they mandated people to close their fucking businesses. The least they can do is try to keep them afloat during all of this insanity.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Like I said yesterday, I'm not a big fan of bailouts, but in this case it is palatable, because they mandated people to close their fucking businesses. The least they can do is try to keep them afloat during all of this insanity.

Yeah when government oversteps their power in one fashion they sort of have to do it in another. It's sort of a slippery slope.

 

[Cotton]

Yeah when government oversteps their power in one fashion they sort of have to do it in another. It's sort of a slippery slope.

It absolutely a slippery slope. If I weren't lazy I would repost all of the times I said we shouldn't step out on that slope.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Cotton]

This is going to put a lot of businesses out of business. The government shouldn't be mandating whether a business can be open or not. The tweet I posted yesterday was spot on. If you give up your rights that easily without a fight then you can't expect for them to come back. Or, you resign yourself to having them taken away so easily next time there is a scare.

This is 100% correct. Let them decide what is best for them. If people don't show up, then it's on them wasting money paying employees to sit around.

Right. Where does this insanity stop? Where is the bottom of this slippery slope? The government telling me I have to register my temperature every day? This is fucking America. Or at least it was.

I feel sorry for you folks in the medical industry. But, I'm not sacrificing my rights or the economy because a new strain of the flu same out. But, you signed up for this profession knowing full well the risks the job held. Again, I am sorry that you're on the front line with this stuff. Stay safe, brother.

This is what I'm talking about. If we give up part of our rights too easily, many more rights could disappear over night. We have to be very careful here.

There is never a situation where government overreach is warranted. Never ever never. You give up your liberties and the government will never give them back. Remember how the income tax was just to pay for World War I? Yeah, me too.

It's absolutely incredible to me how people are being accepting of this. Blows my mind.

I think we should absolutely take it seriously. I just don't think the government should dictate whether businesses should be open. That has been my point this whole time. Apparently you missed it.

This is 100% correct. We are a resourceful people. Just let the people figure this thing out and stop forcing mandates on us and taking our liberties in the process.

I heard from multiple places a 2 week lockdown is coming. I get being safe, but at what cost? What are you willing to give up?

And, that's the thing. You have every right to stay home. It shouldn't be mandated.

So, you would be okay taking away everyone's liberties because of the ones that are stupid and irresponsible? We don't disagree often , but we damn sure do here.

My opinion have jack shit to do with this virus. It has to do with the slippery slope you step out onto when you start taking people's freedoms.

I'm telling you, you give us your liberties easily, and many more liberties will be taken away. Also, we are creating the next Great Depression with all of this. Unemployment was 9% at its worse during the GD, and we are currently sitting at 9%....... in just two weeks.

This is what comes after they order businesses closed. The liberties will be taken.

He isn't taking business from them. But, tbh, I hate the government interfering in the private market period. So, I'm not a fan, but since it is for national security I don't hate it.

We have overcome worse, with far less technology in the medical field in the past. And, we did it with very little government interference. We are a resilient people. Sure, there are idiots out there, but there were idiots out there during the last 5 pandemics, too, and we pulled through that. I know that's not what you're looking for, but that is my opinion on it.

The government is supposed to protect the people. I get that. But, think of how many people lost everything because of mandated shutdowns. I'm all for being safe, but it shouldn't be mandated. We are not China. We (I) take our liberties very seriously. We start giving them up for nay reason, they will get taken away at the very next opportunity the government deems fit. I know this sounds heartless, but we step out on that slope and we very well may never get back off the slope.

I don't consider the government making suggestions as being interference. Maybe that's where that's where we are are on different pages. I'm fine with the CDC putting out suggestions on how people can stay safe, and at that point it is up to the individual to be responsible or not. The free market will work this out. For example Ford and Chevy are now making ventilators. The free market is undefeated. Let it work.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

And, I stand by every post.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Cotton]

Jesus Christ.

 

[yimyammer]

So this was scary. Had a guy with a fever and abdominal pain today. So I figure, no COVID but since I'm scanning his belly, I'll just take a look-see at his lungs while I'm at it. You have to keep a high index of suspicion. Boom. COVID. Well, likely anyway. The swab test will tell in 24-28 hours. I sprinted to tell the RN and she's in there with a surgical mask and gloves. I told her to put her damn N95 on.

Ughh...got to stay vigilant with this shit.

man, how can you avoid what seems inevitable? Seems like everyone in your profession will eventually get it.

Am I overstating things?

So I guess when you have a known C19 patient, you wear the N95 mask, gloves, face shield...anything else?

Thank gawd for people like you in the world doing what y'all do, I get queasy at the site of a needle and would be a horrible health care worker

 

[Cotton]

This is coming from an area where the govt has the authority to fine you if you BBQ on the wrong day.

And, it will only get worse the more of your liberties you surrender. This is a terrible precedent to set.

 

[data]

And, it will only get worse the more of your liberties you surrender. This is a terrible precedent to set.

Would you support an increase to a three term limit for POTUS?

 

[Cotton]

Would you support an increase to a three term limit for POTUS?

Only if we can get term limits in place for Congress. I can't imagine going 12 years with one party having a super majority and the White House.

 

[Cotton]

If there were no POTUS term limits, who would be President right now — W?

To be honest, probably Clinton.

 

[Cotton]

 

[L.T. Fan]

Yeah totally different type of crisis. I expect the economy to come back to strong levels when this thing is done but there is really nothing to do to fix the unemployment rate when every state is basically telling large parts of their workforce that they can't work. It's not rocket science, of course unemployment is going to go up if you tell those people to be unemployed by order of imprisonment. On the other hand as long as this doesn't do irreparable harm to businesses things should bounce back. It's why they are offering SBA loans to businesses like mine to keep us afloat while this thing is going on. All the government can do right now it try to keep the businesses alive while they basically force them to shut down. Luckily for myself I'm not dipping my toes in that money because I'm still able to work and keep some money coming in.

Yeah, the economy circumstance is caused by a sudden and unexpected event that will pass through the country and abruptly changed most of the dynamics of the marketplace. Starting with the stock market money wasn’t lost there it just changed hands and pockets. The money is still around so it can and will come back quickly.

Right now a very large portion of the funds was diverted to purchasing oil futures. That will flow back when gas prices rise again and they will.

As to the employment situation most of the jobs lost was in the service and labor sector. When the green lights go back on these workers will be pulled back into the job market. The drag will be those who signed up for unemployment and hold out until the last check.

It’s a guessing game how the stimulus program will trigger the small business sector but it will be positive most probably. So on and so on.

 

[L.T. Fan]

This program needs to be stalled and possibly shut down. It is the most risk to the economy than any other program.