2025 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Cujo]

Can I go back in time or am I stuck with the current shit sandwich Jerry has put us in?

I would have actually been negotiating months ago of it were up to me. Not basically been sitting in a pissing match with no real negotiations. But if I'm handed the current shit situation I'd have to seriously consider trading Parsons. That or I roll the dice and see if he shows up. Caving with some biggest non QB deal now feels like a loss in every way possible. But we have boxed ourselves into that corner. And in the end you spend more money and get a player who isn't really ready for the season.

Somehow, we end up with the worst possible outcomes pretty frequently

 

[bbgun]

They won't trade him. That would be tantamount to quitting on the season, and Jerry doesn't want to see empty seats. He thinks we're a contender every year, reality notwithstanding.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

They won't trade him. That would be tantamount to quitting on the season, and Jerry doesn't want to see empty seats. He thinks we're a contender every year, reality notwithstanding.

I always wonder if he really believe that. Or if he just says it because he knows it sells tickets.

No way in hell he really thought we were a contender last year. He basically threw the towel in and had a dead man walking at head coach that he wanted to fire but refused to pay for a year to not coach.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Against my better judgement I'm watching this new SAS interview with Jerry just posted a couple of hours ago.

I now don't think Jerry will sign him. Jerry basically said we agreed on the money, the years, everything, but then the agent got involved and said we'll start negotiations now. But Jerry says the numbers they agreed to were far greater (probably the $200 million he's floated before) than this year plus two franchise tags, so which does he want to take?

Could just be negotiating, but I think Jerry is dug in on this. For some reason it's personal with this agent. And Micah could well be the one player stubborn enough to sit out for good because he got mad.

 

[Genghis Khan]

No way in hell he really thought we were a contender last year.

oh, there's a way.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

oh, there's a way.

Yeah, I think he actually does believe that stuff. Chronic overoptimism is one of his worst problems. It probably helps in his other businesses and his life, but it's bad in GMing an NFL team.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I'm watching the Jerry / Irvin interview right now.

Hearing it, I actually don't think the agent literally told Jerry to stick it up his ass. I don't think Jerry meant that literally.

He's basically saying the agent didn't even want to look at the offer because he didn't negotiate it.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yeah, I think he actually does believe that stuff. Chronic overoptimism is one of his worst problems. It probably helps in his other businesses and his life, but it's bad in GMing an NFL team.

In terms of marketing it makes sense. Optimism is what sells the tickets.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Jerry says that if Micah negotiates directly with him instead of through his agent, he can have a relationship with Jerry for 20 or 30 years.

How old does Jerry think he is? He doesn't have 20 or 30 years.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

In terms of marketing it makes sense. Optimism is what sells the tickets.

I do think he believes it, though. I always go back to 2002 when he said that was a playoff team, and they lost to the Texans and went 5-11.

Of course that's because he's a football idiot who can't judge football talent for shit.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Jerry says that if Micah negotiates directly with him instead of through his agent, he can have a relationship with Jerry for 20 or 30 years.

How old does Jerry think he is? He doesn't have 20 or 30 years.

You sure about that?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I do think he believes it, though. I always go back to 2002 when he said that was a playoff team, and they lost to the Texans and went 5-11.

Of course that's because he's a football idiot who can't judge football talent for shit.

Yeah you just never really get an authentic Jerry. So I always find it hard to tell what he really believes or thinks. Its like the dude is always trying to put on a show. And no I have not watched the documentary/show so I can't comment on how he came off in it.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Jerry talking about negotiating with a coach who he really wanted and was one of the best in the country, but the coach wanted his financial advisor involved and so Jerry hired someone else instead.

That coach had to have been either Norv or Terry Donahue.

 

[Genghis Khan]

You sure about that?

No.

 

[Bipo]

OK, devil's advocate.....do you really need an agent for this? Lamar Jackson doesn't have one and got fuckin PAID. 5 years 260....185 guaranteed.

So make sure the years, the money, and most of all, the guarantee is right and cut the fuckin agent and his percentage out.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

OK, devil's advocate.....do you really need an agent for this? Lamar Jackson doesn't have one and got fuckin PAID. 5 years 260....185 guaranteed.

So make sure the years, the money, and most of all, the guarantee is right and cut the fuckin agent and his percentage out.

I mean you'd want at least an agent to look over the details of a contract I would imagine. But no, you could negotiate most of it without an agent. I imagine though when talking about 260 mil you'd want someone with some expertise to actually look at the details. But that's kind of how Jerry acts like the role of an agent is. As opposed to an agent actually negotiating the deal.

But my guess is an agent gets more for his clients than the 3% he gets paid.

 

[Genghis Khan]

OK, devil's advocate.....do you really need an agent for this? Lamar Jackson doesn't have one and got fuckin PAID. 5 years 260....185 guaranteed.

So make sure the years, the money, and most of all, the guarantee is right and cut the fuckin agent and his percentage out.

You don't really.

But it's also Micah's prerogative to do it that way and Jerry should respect that.

If Micah goes to his agent and wants to rip up the offer and start over, then so be it. That's what you have to do.

 

[Bipo]

I mean you'd want at least an agent to look over the details of a contract I would imagine. But no, you could negotiate most of it without an agent. I imagine though when talking about 260 mil you'd want someone with some expertise to actually look at the details. But that's kind of how Jerry acts like the role of an agent is. As opposed to an agent actually negotiating the deal.

But my guess is an agent gets more for his clients than the 3% he gets paid.

NFLPA can look over a contract for you. They just can't negotiate it.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I mean you'd want at least an agent to look over the details of a contract I would imagine. But no, you could negotiate most of it without an agent. I imagine though when talking about 260 mil you'd want someone with some expertise to actually look at the details. But that's kind of how Jerry acts like the role of an agent is. As opposed to an agent actually negotiating the deal.

But my guess is an agent gets more for his clients than the 3% he gets paid.

Jerry did say in fairness that he has no problem with the agent looking it over and so forth.

Basically they had a framework of an agreement and he's ok with the agent looking at it and tweaking it, but the agent in this case didn't want to even look at it.

 

[Simpleton]

OK, devil's advocate.....do you really need an agent for this? Lamar Jackson doesn't have one and got fuckin PAID. 5 years 260....185 guaranteed.

So make sure the years, the money, and most of all, the guarantee is right and cut the fuckin agent and his percentage out.

I don't think so, which is why I think everyone involved is moronic.

Jerry is an idiot because nobody does business this way these days and he's just trying to pull a power move.

Conversely, unless the deal is terrible, the agent shouldn't be pulling his own power move to make a point.

Parsons of course could put an end to it one way or the other but I think he's been manipulated by both sides at different points. He allowed himself to be manipulated by Jerry as far as "negotiations" go, and now his agent might be manipulating him to prove a point.