McCarthy Gone - Now the search is on - Schottenheimer Hired

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Had to look on that thread and yep, there it is... Someone called David S ripping Ernie to shreds. :lol
 

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I am getting used to it.

Taunting and laughing at all of us.

Every day.
If you ever want a different one, that pic in 2322 is pretty good too.
 

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It highlights maybe the biggest issue of all. They don't actually think there's anything wrong. They think they've been successful. Their standards are way too low.
Stephen doesn't evaluate success by Superbowls or NFC Championships. His bar is absolutely very low. You win 12 games and get bounced in the first round and he considers it a big success. You know why? Because fans stay interested all season and they spend money. Now give us a few more seasons like the last where fans knew we were out of the playoffs halfway through the season and his butthole may start to pucker.
 

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Stephen doesn't evaluate success by Superbowls or NFC Championships. His bar is absolutely very low. You win 12 games and get bounced in the first round and he considers it a big success. You know why? Because fans stay interested all season and they spend money. Now give us a few more seasons like the last where fans knew we were out of the playoffs halfway through the season and his butthole may start to pucker.

He even admitted it.


 

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He even admitted it.


He's not wrong exactly but this is the perfect example of what many of us have said over the years. While you could easily make the argument that the FO did a really good job putting rosters together between 2021-23, and that only winning one playoff game was on the coaches mostly, the fact of the matter is that most GM's and front offices know they only have a finite amount of time to win it all and operate accordingly.

They know they need to maximize the handful of years they have, whereas these jokers know they're here forever so they can play the "long game" where they're content putting together good, or even very good but not great rosters, not overextending financially, and hoping the bounces fall their way one year.

A normal FO would've likely been aggressive after losing to SF in 2022 to try to get over the hump considering how close they were, even if it set them back a bit in 2025-26 or whatever, but these guys consciously look at these things with a 10-20 year lens which of course means they feel absolutely no urgency to move quick.

That lack of urgency can be seen in every single facet of how they operate, from FA to coaching searches and everything in between.
 

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He's not wrong exactly but this is the perfect example of what many of us have said over the years. While you could easily make the argument that the FO did a really good job putting rosters together between 2021-23, and that only winning one playoff game was on the coaches mostly, the fact of the matter is that most GM's and front offices know they only have a finite amount of time to win it all and operate accordingly.

They know they need to maximize the handful of years they have, whereas these jokers know they're here forever so they can play the "long game" where they're content putting together good, or even very good but not great rosters, not overextending financially, and hoping the bounces fall their way one year.

A normal FO would've likely been aggressive after losing to SF in 2022 to try to get over the hump considering how close they were, even if it set them back a bit in 2025-26 or whatever, but these guys consciously look at these things with a 10-20 year lens which of course means they feel absolutely no urgency to move quick.

That lack of urgency can be seen in every single facet of how they operate, from FA to coaching searches and everything in between.
A Superbowl and a 5 win season mean shitty sales for a year.

Two 12 win seasons and no Superbowl means 2 great years of sales.

Stephen looks at this as a business and not as a sports team. Winning the Superbowl doesn't equal success to him. Making more money than any other franchise is how he views success.
 

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A Superbowl and a 5 win season mean shitty sales for a year.

Two 12 win seasons and no Superbowl means 2 great years of sales.

Stephen looks at this as a business and not as a sports team. Winning the Superbowl doesn't equal success to him. Making more money than any other franchise is how he views success.
Yea and I think he (rightly) knows that there is an element of luck involved in any given year, so why overextend yourself when you can just keep going at a steady rate and hope the luck falls your way one year? Especially when you have 25 years to look forward to in the first place.

It all goes back to the fact that these assholes aren't incentivized to win and can never be removed unless they choose to take a step back.

The only hope is that it gets bad enough that the family becomes pariahs due to fan outrage.
 

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If there's no Witten what's even the point of all of this?

They just straight up low-balled McCarthy?

So they just flat out decided to let the HC of a failed staff go so they could elevate his "OC"?

Jesus H.
They lowballed McCarthy because they don't want to have to pay him if they decide he needs firing in 18 months.

Schottenheimer may be half as good as McCarthy but because of built-in face-saving internal clocks, they can milk three years out of him in terms of fan good will before having to can him. McCarthy would have been more expensive, required a longer deal, and sentiment could turn against him faster, meaning they'd have to fire him earlier.

That's the last thing they want.
 

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They lowballed McCarthy because they don't want to have to pay him if they decide he needs firing in 18 months.

Schottenheimer may be half as good as McCarthy but because of built-in face-saving internal clocks, they can milk three years out of him in terms of fan good will before having to can him. McCarthy would have been more expensive, required a longer deal, and sentiment could turn against him faster, meaning they'd have to fire him earlier.

That's the last thing they want.
McCarthy likely is more expensive but I don't think there's any chance Schottenheimer bought them any goodwill.

Fan sentiment will be exactly the same halfway through next season unless we're at least 5-3.
 

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McCarthy likely is more expensive but I don't think there's any chance Schottenheimer bought them any goodwill.

Fan sentiment will be exactly the same halfway through next season unless we're at least 5-3.
Yeah, fans are not excited by this move. I doubt the fans give this guy any amount of time if the Cowboys aren't winning.

Now the Cowboys will give him 4 years. But that's because they won't pay a guy not to coach. Will be really interesting if the fan attendance starts to plummet how long Jerry can spin keeping this guy around.

It's not like a Bill Parcells hire where fans are excited and willing to give it time to build.
 
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