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[1bigfan13]

I don't even think it matters. An ass beating like that makes me feel like the season is over because it is the exact same way GB fucked us in the ass in the playoffs. Nothing was fixed.

On Sunday they looked like a team whose GM sat on his ass all off-season and who blew off free agency.

SISO

 

[Rev]

SISO

Never heard that one before but it describes the Cowboys plan perfectly.

 

[Genghis Khan]

On Sunday they looked like a team whose GM sat on his ass all season and who blew off free agency.

SISO

That's the perfect way to put it.

 

[boozeman]

 

[L.T. Fan]

I think the Cowboys can handle the Ravens. I have seen only limited amounts of them this season but they are just about completely dependent of their QB for production on the offense. If Dallas can contain him it shuts down a large amount of their execution and production. Dallas has the personnel on defense to contain him. They need to press him constantly.

 

[boozeman]

Oh bullshit.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Oh bullshit.

I really do feel like I'm at a point of indifference with the team. Maybe if we get on a roll I'll get excited. But right now I'm just sort of meh. I'll watch, if we start getting our asses kicked I'll probably just do something else. If we beat the shit out of the Ravens, that's cool and I'll enjoy it. But it's not going to get me overly excited about this team either. I'm just sort of suck on meh.

 

[boozeman]

I really do feel like I'm at a point of indifference with the team. Maybe if we get on a roll I'll get excited. But right now I'm just sort of meh. I'll watch, if we start getting our asses kicked I'll probably just do something else. If we beat the shit out of the Ravens, that's cool and I'll enjoy it. But it's not going to get me overly excited about this team either. I'm just sort of suck on meh.

Well this year was destined for meh. It was planned to be this way.

 

[Simpleton]

Well this year was destined for meh. It was planned to be this way.

I 1000% believe that Stephen and the FO consciously looked at this as a reset year. Shed some salary, let some vet FA's go and lay the foundation for the future of the OL while not making any big commitments beyond guys you view as franchise cornerstones.

I truly believe they are purposely looking at this off-season/season as taking a step back to set up the next 3-4 years when you take into account the extensions they gave Dak and Lamb.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I 1000% believe that Stephen and the FO consciously looked at this as a reset year. Shed some salary, let some vet FA's go and lay the foundation for the future of the OL while not making any big commitments beyond guys you view as franchise cornerstones.

I truly believe they are purposely looking at this off-season/season as taking a step back to set up the next 3-4 years when you take into account the extensions they gave Dak and Lamb.

There is still a small part of me that thinks this offseason was trying to make a point to Dak as well. You want all this pie, then you need to see we can't afford to do anything except lose players in the offseason. Of course none of that worked. Dak has been paid and it's over.

But yeah, this year was sort of designed as a meh season. So it makes sense that I really don't feel much of anything about the team right now.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Said it before and I'll say it again. And this won't be the last time, either. But I'm just tired of Dak. I never got too into the big Dak debates because I was so in the middle -- he's not as bad as his haters claim and not as great as his lovers claim. But at this point nine years in, the team with him is so stale. I'm sick of his stupid cliches and his stupid looks on the sideline. This team needs a refresh badly. But we aren't going to get it thanks to that contract. I still think Jerry is going to regret that sooner rather than later. Much sooner.

 

[Rev]

Said it before and I'll say it again. And this won't be the last time, either. But I'm just tired of Dak. I never got too into the big Dak debates because I was so in the middle -- he's not as bad as his haters claim and not as great as his lovers claim. But at this point nine years in, the team with him is so stale. I'm sick of his stupid cliches and his stupid looks on the sideline. This team needs a refresh badly. But we aren't going to get it thanks to that contract. I still think Jerry is going to regret that sooner rather than later. Much sooner.

Don't you just love the "we just have to get better" quotes?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Don't you just love the "we just have to get better" quotes?

I mean, I understand that there's not really a good answer you can give after a bad loss. I'm trying to be fair about that. But I'm tired of his particular robotic cliches. It's been long enough.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Said it before and I'll say it again. And this won't be the last time, either. But I'm just tired of Dak. I never got too into the big Dak debates because I was so in the middle -- he's not as bad as his haters claim and not as great as his lovers claim. But at this point nine years in, the team with him is so stale. I'm sick of his stupid cliches and his stupid looks on the sideline. This team needs a refresh badly. But we aren't going to get it thanks to that contract. I still think Jerry is going to regret that sooner rather than later. Much sooner.

Reminds me of the same things that happened with Romo. Sick of the backwards hat, sick of the "if this is the worst thing that happens". Sounds just like Dak saying "we weren't going to win them all".

I think it's probably just what happens when a QB has been the starter here a long time. Especially a starter who hasn't ever won anything of significance here. The problems on this team run so much deeper than Dak. He's just sort of the easy answer.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Reminds me of the same things that happened with Romo. Sick of the backwards hat, sick of the "if this is the worst thing that happens". Sounds just like Dak saying "we weren't going to win them all".

I think it's probably just what happens when a QB has been the starter here a long time. Especially a starter who hasn't ever won anything of significance here. The problems on this team run so much deeper than Dak. He's just sort of the easy answer.

Of course he's not the biggest problem, but the QB is the face of the team, especially when he just got the biggest contract in league history.

If he had Derek Carr's contract, I'd be just as tired of him, but at least maybe you could do more around him to try to liven things up. Now it seems like it's just going to be like this year -- pay the stars who are due their deals and hope you can draft enough to replace the solid players you had to let go. Stale.

 

[Simpleton]

Said it before and I'll say it again. And this won't be the last time, either. But I'm just tired of Dak. I never got too into the big Dak debates because I was so in the middle -- he's not as bad as his haters claim and not as great as his lovers claim. But at this point nine years in, the team with him is so stale. I'm sick of his stupid cliches and his stupid looks on the sideline. This team needs a refresh badly. But we aren't going to get it thanks to that contract. I still think Jerry is going to regret that sooner rather than later. Much sooner.

To be fair, we have gone 12-5 3 straight years and were the 2 seed last year, I don't mind extending him, rolling the dice for 2-3 years, and buying time to find his successor without having to throw them right into the fire.

The key of course is whether or not they actually make a serious effort to find a successor sometime within the next 2-3 years, and not this half-baked Lance stuff.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

To be fair, we have gone 12-5 3 straight years and were the 2 seed last year, I don't mind extending him, rolling the dice for 2-3 years, and buying time to find his successor without having to throw them right into the fire.

Right, I agree with what you've said about that -- that it's okay to extend Dak if you're clear-eyed about it and have a definite plan to replace him soon.

But you know they won't. You know how Jerry thinks -- if a guy is paid, he expects the player to play to that money. I don't think Jerry would ever pay a guy a record-breaking contract and immediately look to a plan to replace him. I don't believe he thinks anything other than that the player is going to play his best, probably through the entire deal.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

But you know they won't. You know how Jerry thinks -- if a guy is paid, he expects the player to play to that money. I don't think Jerry would ever pay a guy a record-breaking contract and immediately look to a plan to replace him.

I don't think Romo was that far into his contract when we started to look at other QBs. Of course his body was breaking down so there was a little bit more motivation to do that. Dak was the guy we eventually drafted but we also know Jerry was looking for other options at the time and prior to. They were just all awful options in hindsight.

What we really need to figure out how to do is get more draft capital. It's just so hard to plug holes every year when you're leaking so much water. If you look at this past draft, we needed all the guys we draft. We needed Guyton, we needed Kneeland, we needed Beebe, we needed a LBer (Loofa), we needed Carson.

But we also badly needed a RB. We also badly needed a DT. We also badly needed another WR. We just didn't have the picks to fill all the holes that are created when you let everyone walk in free agency and add no one.

 

[Simpleton]

Right, I agree with what you've said about that -- that it's okay to extend Dak if you're clear-eyed about it and have a definite plan to replace him soon.

But you know they won't. You know how Jerry thinks -- if a guy is paid, he expects the player to play to that money. I don't think Jerry would ever pay a guy a record-breaking contract and immediately look to a plan to replace him. I don't believe he thinks anything other than that the player is going to play his best, probably through the entire deal.

Probably not, although I wouldn't immediately do it in this coming draft unless there was some glaringly obvious QB available at our pick. I'd be looking more at the 2026-28 drafts to take a guy in the first.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Probably not, although I wouldn't immediately do it in this coming draft unless there was some glaringly obvious QB available at our pick. I'd be looking more at the 2026-28 drafts to take a guy in the first.

2028? Shit, I hope we're all still around here by then.