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Yeah maybe Dallas Goedert is a better hope.I hope the guy turns into George Kittle, not gonna happen though.
Yeah maybe Dallas Goedert is a better hope.I hope the guy turns into George Kittle, not gonna happen though.
A way more athletic version but yesHe seems like another Witten...catch the ball and drop at first impact.
For some reason, people have extrapolated this over the entirety of Wittens career. Witten was never a shifty, YAC guy. But he could run a route like a champ his entire career. And in the early and middle of his career, was a load to bring down. The last few years he lost a lot of that, sure. But I just can't for the life of me figure out why people want to shit on an all timer, while also claiming he was always just a catch and fall TE.He seems like another Witten...catch the ball and drop at first impact.
A way more athletic version but yes
Witten rumbling with no helmet is an unforgettable moment for me. He was one tough bastard to bring down early in his career. He wasn't making anyone miss but he could fight for yards.And in the early and middle of his career, was a load to bring down.
Yeah, I mean we will kind of have to wait and see. Until he shows more it's still a poor man's version of Witten. Hell it took Witten a year before we really knew what he could become even.A way more athletic version of a hall of fame player?
YES PLEASE
Witten rumbling with no helmet is an unforgettable moment for me. He was one tough bastard to bring down early in his career. He wasn't making anyone miss but he could fight for yards.
A "way more athletic Witten" (your sentiment not mine) doesn't sound like a poor man's version.Yeah, I mean we will kind of have to wait and see. Until he shows more it's still a poor man's version of Witten. Hell it took Witten a year before we really knew what he could become even.
Witten rumbling with no helmet is an unforgettable moment for me. He was one tough bastard to bring down early in his career. He wasn't making anyone miss but he could fight for yards.
Yep, I remember beating on Troy late in his career, too. It was sad.It's a lot like with Troy.
Yea Witten was much more elusive and able to rack up YAC than what I imagine Schoonmaker will be capable of.Yep, Witten was never shifty, but when he was younger he could really run for a guy that big. He was 10-12 lbs heavier than Schoon with virtually the same 40 time. I went to that camp in 2003 when he was a rookie, and when the TEs were running seam routes I remember thinking that it took him a second to get going, but once he did he could really move.
As NoDak says, some people remember the beat up, million-miles older Witten and act as if he was always that way. It's a lot like with Troy.
never begin a sentence like thatAs NoDak says
He had a strange gait that made covering him tougher because you couldn’t predict subtle change of direction. For someone to be so great for so long, a lot of things had to come together. Willpower, talent, toughness, competitive nature, you could go on and on describing Witten.Yep, Witten was never shifty, but when he was younger he could really run for a guy that big. He was 10-12 lbs heavier than Schoon with virtually the same 40 time. I went to that camp in 2003 when he was a rookie, and when the TEs were running seam routes I remember thinking that it took him a second to get going, but once he did he could really move.
As NoDak says, some people remember the beat up, million-miles older Witten and act as if he was always that way. It's a lot like with Troy.
There have been lots of way more athletic TEs than Witten who were never as good as Witten. And when people say similar they are really just referring to the fact that later in his career he caught the ball and immediately went down. But at 260+ pounds as a rookie Witten was a big dude. That size would be considered freaky by today's NFL standards.A "way more athletic Witten" (your sentiment not mine) doesn't sound like a poor man's version.
My point is he's nothing like Witten most likely and some of you are seriously disrespecting the best TE in franchise history.
People should also remember the 10 receptions for less than 100 yards a game. He did that often and it was a big part of the gameplan to simply get the ball fed to him and he did his job getting open and catching it. YAC was not really an option, both due to the player and the route design.Yep, Witten was never shifty, but when he was younger he could really run for a guy that big. He was 10-12 lbs heavier than Schoon with virtually the same 40 time. I went to that camp in 2003 when he was a rookie, and when the TEs were running seam routes I remember thinking that it took him a second to get going, but once he did he could really move.
As NoDak says, some people remember the beat up, million-miles older Witten and act as if he was always that way. It's a lot like with Troy.
There have been lots of way more athletic TEs than Witten who were never as good as Witten.
People should also remember the 10 receptions for less than 100 yards a game. He did that often and it was a big part of the gameplan to simply get the ball fed to him and he did his job getting open and catching it. YAC was not really an option, both due to the player and the route design.
It is not accurate to say he always caught the ball and fell down, but in five of his seventeen years, he averaged less than 10 yards a reception. His highest average was 11.9 yards a catch in 2011. He could get open in dead zones of coverage like nobody's business.
Witten is like other ex-greats of that era. Romo, Ware, etc. They were all great, but when the glory of a championship isn't there, it tarnishes the legend.