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Al had a great eye for talent but to say he won on his own is overblown, John Madden was a great coach.
Fair enough, but I was more referring to the acquisition of talent.
Al had a great eye for talent but to say he won on his own is overblown, John Madden was a great coach.
Fair enough, but I was more referring to the acquisition of talent.
But part of being a great owner is hiring the right people and letting them do their job. So for that period of time at least he was a top notch owner. He has just sucked ever since.
He hasn't been sucking for a while now.
Well I totally agree. I actually think we have been doing much better in the draft. And in the way we are adding players in free agency.
He hasn't been sucking for a while now.
You know the owner has had the power to replace that guy who has sucked as a GM for the past 20 years, right? That means the owner sucks as an owner.
I grew up right in the middle of the franchise going 18 of 20 years in the playoffs and not having a losing season in that span. The team went to 5 super bowls in that span. I can't remember how many nfc championship game appearances, but I know it's at least 8, and probably more like 10. And that's with around 4 legit starting QBs in that span, so it's not like they were riding 1 great player. They were a well run organization.
That's my standard.
Care to compare that to the past 20 years? I think we have made the playoffs something like 8 or so times. Only about 3 teams have failed to make the NFC championship game in that time, and we're one of them. We are now a poorly run organization. And we've had the same "great" owner calling the final shots in each and every one of those years. The same owner who refuses to fire the incompetent GM that continually fails to live up to the standards established by the predecessors of this once great organization.
We have been over this. Al actually had a great eye for talent. He won those rings literally on his own. Not with a genius like Jimmy. There is no comparing the two.
Jimmy looked like a genius in Miami?
Jimmy and Jerry both made the Cowboys. It wasn't just one.
His record got better every year he was there, including 10-6 his second to last year there. He quit because he was burned out, or who knows what he would have done for Miami.
That is an assumption he would have done any more. The fact is his EGO could not exist with Mario's EGO. Sound familiar? I got rings, I don't need this shat, I'm going fishing...
will do anything to do so...except fire himself.
I didn't definitively say he would have done more. I said who knows what he would have done had he stayed. But, he was trending in the right direction when he left.

His record got better every year he was there, including 10-6 his second to last year there. He quit because he was burned out, or who knows what he would have done for Miami.
The irony is that is exactly what he needed to do in order to win for the standard we are used to.
Under that assumption, we should have finished better than 12-4 this year since Garrett was trending up...![]()
If he had been allowed to trade Marino like he wanted to when he first got there he would have finished the job imo
so, I am getting the impression that Jimmy is a God and Jerry sucks on this board. Is that the general thought?
Who are you talking about? Jerry?
I think you are seeing Stephen being more involved then Jerry all of a sudden after 20 years of being oblivious getting some kind of clue.
Is that seriously even a question? It's pretty much fact.