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...Hostile said:Okay, this is hilarious to me. A little birdie shared this with me.
I posted in that thread over at CZ in response to an obvious banned member who was back with a new account. He created his account in August 2015 and said he remembered the days of my iron fist rule there.
Username was Junglist. Was, because he got banned.
Turns out that was Rynie from DCU. No shock. They have nothing good to say about that forum, yet they can't just be men and stay away. Seriously, if you hate something that bad, don't do it.
So he gets banned because he created a new account. Over on DCU he says I "still have powers" at CZ. Yeah, I got a ton of power there. I don't post. I've been threatened with a ban the next time I go after any of the DCU guys even a little bit. Reality hasn't spoken to me in 2 years. Only a couple of the mods are even civil to me. Power out the wazoo.
He broke a rule and created a new account, outed himself as a banned member, ended up banned because he is a banned poster, and it's my imaginary powers fault? How stupid it that?
I swear those guys are some of the biggest sissies ever. Nothing is ever their fault. I rarely visit there any longer, but I know what things are my fault and what aren't and I own up to my mistakes.
Hostile said:The only bad thing about this Mock is that Ramsey was the #1 overall. You may not want Elliott at 4, but if you complain about this Mock you have no soul.
Used a 2017 4th round pick to get up for Wentz.
4: R1P4
RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
OHIO STATE
32: R2P1
QB CARSON WENTZ
NORTH DAKOTA STATE
75: R3P12
DE SHAWN OAKMAN
BAYLOR
106: R4P8
OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT
ARIZONA
135: R4P37
DT ADAM GOTSIS
GEORGIA TECH
154: R5P15
CB ERIC MURRAY
MINNESOTA
189: R6P14
DE MATT JUDON
GRAND VALLEY STATE
206: R6P31
ILB ANTONIO MORRISON
FLORIDA
212: R6P37
FB DAN VITALE
NORTHWESTERN
216: R6P41
RB DANIEL LASCO
CALIFORNIA
217: R6P42
CB MORGAN BURNS
KANSAS STATE
rcaldw said:I wish it would be true Hos, but there is no way in a million years that Wentz falls to 32.
Hostile said:Why do people insist on telling someone this after a Mock? I have done it too, and I regret it every time. This is how it fell. I dealt with how it fell. Period. I'm almost to the point where I don't want to post Mocks any longer because no one can simply talk about the good and bad of it. That one line is all some will say.
Not bagging on you. We all do it. It is a disservice to everyone.
rcaldw said:Well, please accept my apology then. Because I love your mocks. It was just a thought that hit me, not a criticism. And who knows? NFL.com only has Wentz ranked at 6.25, so he might drop that far. If so, would be a huge win for us.
Fixed it :)
rcaldw said:I hope this happens. Would love that outcome.
Damn. The willingness to suckle at the fat mans tit is strong with this one.Angus12 said:Just my opinion, but when you see something like that it makes it hard to take the mock seriously. I've seen in these kinds of mocks Elliot fall in to the second round. Wentz fall to the second round. Goff fall to the second round, etc... Everyone knows there is absolutely NO way that will happen. And such, anything else in the mock is rendered moot because of it. Again, just my opinion.
Oh, and how did we get the first pick in the 2nd? And a 5th rounder? I noticed we're still picking at 4 in the first round. How did move around with the other picks? Just curious.
Hostile said:Well, by all means when you do a Mock, don't take the player that falls.
I traded a future 4th to move up to 1 in the 2nd. I traded back in the 3rd to add the 5th. I traded down in the 4th to add yet another 6th.
Angus12 said:Not sure that I said anything even remotely close to that, but ok.
I've done these fanspeak mocks before, too. For some reason, they always have a big name or two fall. And they always seem to have somebody go in the first or second that will be lucky to make it into the 5th. I have no idea if this is some kind of glitch in their software, or something they wrote in for some reason or another. Either way, it is hard to take it seriously when you see what many consider the top QB in the draft falling into the second round.
You were talking above about discussion. Or supposedly killing it by mentioning how unrealistic these drafts can be. I'd much prefer discussing mock drafts that actually might/could happen. But that might just be me.
Hostile said:Jason Witten was NEVER going to make it to the 2nd round. He made it to the 3rd.
Stephen Jackson was never going to make to Dallas at pick #25. He did, and Parcells broke my heart because he did not want to deal with the "F-ing Postons."
Randy Gregory would get picked before the 2nd round for sure. He'd be gone by our pick at 60.
Heard all that jazz before.
Players drop. Period. You can try to deny it, but it won't make your preferred scenario any more valid.
Angus12 said:That's nice. You sound like you're pretty sure of yourself and your mock. Tell ya what. I'll give you 10-1. You name the amount. If Wentz drops out of the first, I'll take the amount you propose, multiply it by 10, and donate it to a charity of your choice. If he doesn't, you donate just the amount you propose to a charity of my choice.
Hostile said:It has nothing to do with sure of myself or my mock. That is the point. None of us have the gift of prophecy to say any mock is impossible. Is it improbable that Wentz falls that far? Yes, but in this mock he did, and I did what was needed to capitalize on it.
If you can't have fun with that, go get an enema.
However, since I am a huge fan of charity bets I will take your bet and say $10. I fully expect to pay it and I do not care. I don't expect him to fall to the 2nd. That was never the point. If you can't see the point, not my problem.
Angus12 said:I came in to the discussion politely when you asked why people questioned things like that, and clearly stating it was only my opinion when explaining why I thought so. You open right up with a smart ass remark in your very first line of response to me. Now, you suggest I can go get an enema? Seriously, what is your problem? Whenever somebody doesn't agree with you, you instantly throw out the snark. Then act all indignant when it's returned. This isn't the first time you've tossed out the passive aggressive shots my way. I'm just curious as to why.
I freely admit, when you opened up with the smartass comment, it pissed me off. I'm certainly not one that will just sit back and take it.
Hostile said:I never said you or anyone else was being impolite. Don't even know where that is coming from.
I'd like us all to enjoy mock drafts rather than dismiss them. If you can't do that, your loss.
You're pissed off at everything I say anyway. What the hell is the difference for me? I apologized to you, after I had asked you via PM if the AD discussion was over the top and you said "no." Suddenly I got a rude response and you've been nothing but rude to me ever since. Get over it and get off my back. I'd rather talk Dallas Cowboys than have this discussion. I have tried being friendly with you and it doesn't work. So when you give your snide two cents, I am going to respond. If you'd like to bury the hatchet, I'd love to. I've tried to. The ball is in your court there.
Name your charity, and I will go ahead and pay the bet we made.
Angus12 said:That's exactly what I'm talking about. Please, show us all where I had given my 'snide two cents' before you started in with your crap. And no, I'm not 'pissed off at everything you say, anyway'. People comment all the time on here on stuff they disagree with. But for some reason, you are the only one that seems to take it like some kind of personal attack. Get over it, indeed.
I ask you... Please reread this thread, and show me where I had said anything snarky or in a way that could be taken as pissed off. Now, again I'll admit AFTER you started in, I responded in kind. I reread our exchange, and I didn't give my 'snide two cents' in my second post to you, either. I only responded with why I thought fanspeak drafts always seemed to have big names either falling or rising. You responded with more snark. With some cherry picked players, of which only one truly fell like we're talking about here. Gregory fell because of a failed drug test, and Jackson was still a first rounder, even with your example of our coach passing him by for his own reasons. Even then, the only thing that could be considered snide would be my comment of 'That's nice' in my third post. You responded with, yep. You guessed it. More snark. Unless of course telling people they should go get an enema is some kind of board courtesy that I am woefully unaware of. Now you got me. THAT'S when I came back in with my neck up. Whoops.
Or maybe anybody else that's reading this could kindly point out to me where I came in snidely and Hostile only responded in kind. If so, I will happily apologize.
Hostile's PM said:First of all, I stand by what I said that after you got mad and told me to ban your account that ever since you've been pissed off at me. You think I didn't notice that if someone disagrees with me that you like almost every post? You never responded to the apology, publicly or privately. You just let it hang there. How would you read that if it was reversed?
As to the thread, you think you did not start the snide conversation? I disagree. I thought it was a good conversation with back and forth about players falling in mocks and in real life then we get this, and from where I sit the tone changed from one of discussion to one of challenge.
"That's nice. You sound like you're pretty sure of yourself and your mock. Tell ya what. I'll give you 10-1. You name the amount. If Wentz drops out of the first, I'll take the amount you propose, multiply it by 10, and donate it to a charity of your choice. If he doesn't, you donate just the amount you propose to a charity of my choice."
Now, I ask you, prior to that post where was I "pretty sure of my mock?" Who is ever sure of a Mock? Where did I guarantee Wentz can be had in the 2nd for real? That would really interest me. I simply said players fall, and I gave examples of how I have heard the same thing you were saying before. Namely Witten, Jackson, and Gregory.
Look, I get it. Wentz is your pick. You've told us several times that you have seen him play in HS and in college. That's cool. I like the kid. But you seem to take it freaking personal that I don't have QB as our biggest 1st round need, and instead want the same thing I wanted last year with the AD threads, a bell cow RB to replace Murray. I have no idea why this grinds your gears. I say this jokingly, if we get a RB this year I will not have that as my agenda next year and you can relax.
Wentz fell to the 2nd in a Mock I don't control. I am seriously, seriously, seriously sorry. If it happens again I give you my word that I will not select him, or if I do, I won't ever post it again. I don't want you to come to the conclusion that I am **** sure of a mock draft and feel obligated to throw out challenges. Let me make it clear. I do NOT think Wentz will fall to the 2nd. I do NOT think Elliott will, and yes I have done mocks were he does too. Wentz did this time, on a randomly powered website. I did what I thought was the smart thing, I made a deal to go get the player you like best, and that I do like very much and will not grouse about if he is our pick. For some reason the 2nd round grade pisses you off to the point that you need to throw down a bet. You made it to that point in 2 posts of the conversation, one where I said players fall and told you how I got the extra picks and the other one where I showed players who actually fell. That set you off?
Well, I took your bet. So tell me the charity. I will pay it now, even though the Draft is under 4 weeks away. I'll do it gladly. I wish it was more money but I can't afford it. I am not rich and I just spent a day in the ER because people thought I was having a heart attack. Noticed you read the thread. And all the threads about my daughter going to Japan. And the thread about me being released as a Bishop after 7 plus years. Know what else I've noticed? You never wish my daughter well. You didn't wish me well. Didn't bother to say you were glad it wasn't a heart attack. Didn't encourage me to keep going with the weight loss.
Now, I apologized to you publicly over the AD flap. All of this started over that, and in truth I don't get it. I had equal disagreements with DanteEXT and he never once flew off the handle. Here's the thread where you told us to go ahead and ban your account at post #69.
http://www.cowboysown.com/forums/sh...an-Peterson-News-Of-Sorts&p=237783#post237783
Notice I apologized immediately. Remember that I also sent a private apology. Notice that you never responded to either apology. You responded again in the thread, but not to the apology.
I get it. Because we disagreed, you don't like me. Man, I am fine with that. It's okay. There's no rule here that says you have to like me. I know of 3 other guys who don't either. I still want you to enjoy the site. I hope you do. I did fire back at you. The enema comment is how people where I am from say you are full of crap. But I do feel like you fired first and have been doing so for a long time. I suspect this will probably only make you madder. That is your choice.
For the record, yes, I am very sure of myself. I am sure I am a nice guy who won't let this fester. I am also sure that if you continue to hold a grudge that it will be one sided in dislike, but two sided in snide remarks because I'm not the type who is going to sit still and let you take shots without firing back. I'll enjoy all kinds of joking around, but you don't do that. It is beneath you, or as I said earlier, you do not like being challenged. I don't see that stuff as an affront to your manhood. One of my best friends in the world is a guy that every single time we talk on the phone the first thing I tell him is, "Will you please stop touching yourself." My wife doesn't understand how we are even friends since we talk to each other like that. I have the distinct feeling that you share her feelings on that. You don't joke around, and if someone does with you, or challenges you, you take it personally and then won't let it go.
For the record, no, I am not sure of my mock draft, or any other mock. So please tell me which charity I am going to donate to, and know I will do it with no malice, dislike, or distaste. I am going to do it because I hope it will lead to good karma for you, me, the Cowboys, or whomever benefits from the donation. But if you imagine that I dislike you, then you are flat out wrong. I know you dislike me, and I am cool with it. You're not the first. You won't be the last. It was a MOCK. No disrespect to Carson Wentz was meant. I am not saying he will fall to the 2nd. Could he? Yes. Will he? I seriously doubt it.
The ball is in your court. I have now apologized three times.
I never answered him back.
BTW, I'm fucking tired of switching back and forth on the accounts. I ain't doing it any more. The Green Balloon is done.
If somebody wants to rat me out to Hostile, so be it. Most of the time, that place is nothing but a boring gay bukkake of them congratulating each other on their life events, and crying about how unfair the Zone is to them and how it is filled with nothing but haters.
He kinda outed you when he mentioned you watched Wentz play in HS...

I am not rich and I just spent a day in the ER because people thought I was having a heart attack. Noticed you read the thread. And all the threads about my daughter going to Japan. And the thread about me being released as a Bishop after 7 plus years. Know what else I've noticed? You never wish my daughter well. You didn't wish me well. Didn't bother to say you were glad it wasn't a heart attack. Didn't encourage me to keep going with the weight loss.
And yet, I have time to get into a blood pressure rising internet slap fight. Yep.

Yeah. I was planning on outing myself here, so I didn't edit anything out. I'll still post his stupidity over here, as long as I'm not outed over there. I'm just not going to keep switching between the accounts here. Pain in the ass.
Know what else I've noticed? You never wish my daughter well. You didn't wish me well. Didn't bother to say you were glad it wasn't a heart attack. Didn't encourage me to keep going with the weight loss.
What a fucking woman. I mean, what guy even notices shit like this, let alone get butthurt about it?
You never even acknowledge my birthday every year, but I still consider you my amigo.
Hostile said:I got 4 people near the Cowboys saying they would take Buckner over Bosa.
Now, I will tell you point blank, I like Bosa a lot. More than I do Buckner. But the scales are tipped the other way because I trust the voices I am hearing.
Hostile said:I believe when it's all said and done, our Pick at #4 will be Elliot. We will attempt to trade down first, but I'm hearing it will take a lot to get us to come off that pick.