Sturm’s Morning After: Cowboys loss to Packers will hurt for a long time

[Cowboysrock55]

For the money he's going to command? And in the same offseason where Dez is certain to get a monster contract?

There is a very strong possibility he does not return, and my guess is that the Cowboys have a new RB starting for them next year.

I'm not sure Murray is going to command the money some people think. The NFL has caught on to RBs and for the same reason everyone on here doesn't want to pay him big money, I don't think anyone in the NFL will want to pay him big money. Look at free agent RB contracts last offseason.

 

[BipolarFuk]

He gone.

 

[boozeman]

Randle looked pretty good running out there...

Shaddup.

 

[boozeman]

Let's play the what if game since we don't have anything else to do for the next few months.....

I think the AP thing has a real chance of happening. He contacted Jerry last offseason before he ever got into any trouble, so now that there actually is speculation that he could leave, you have to believe there's a chance especially since there is certain to be mutual interest.

Now, I won't pay Murray 5 or 6 million a year for 4 years, but I will pay that to AP for 2.

My question is, would you pull the trigger on AP and how much would you be willing to pay him? Behind this line, he could put on a show like we've never seen at RB position.

As good as Peterson is, I have a concern about his ability to be successful in a zone scheme. He's run behind a man scheme his whole career.

 

[boozeman]

I'm not sure Murray is going to command the money some people think. The NFL has caught on to RBs and for the same reason everyone on here doesn't want to pay him big money, I don't think anyone in the NFL will want to pay him big money. Look at free agent RB contracts last offseason.

It would probably be either a very dumb team, one with a lot of cap space to burn or both.

I can't imagine him stepping into free agency and have GMs screaming take my money. Yeah, he had a very special year, but judging by the accolades the linemen got, coupled with his injury history should make most teams pause before blowing a ton of cash on him.

 

[jsmith6919]

It would probably be either a very dumb team, one with a lot of cap space to burn or both.

I can't imagine him stepping into free agency and have GMs screaming take my money. Yeah, he had a very special year, but judging by the accolades the linemen got, coupled with his injury history should make most teams pause before blowing a ton of cash on him.

I agree he won't get a crazy deal like teams were giving out a couple years ago, but I could see him getting 5-6mil per which is more than I hope we offer

 

[boozeman]

I agree he won't get a crazy deal like teams were giving out a couple years ago, but I could see him getting 5-6mil per which is more than I hope we offer

I could see a cap rich team like Jacksonville giving him a deal.

 

[ravidubey]

Randle looked pretty good running out there...

After his initial ten+ yard run I knew any subsequent carry had a hard cap of two yards. It's ridiculously predictable-- I even posted it in the game thread as he was coming onto the field.

 

[ravidubey]

It would probably be either a very dumb team, one with a lot of cap space to burn or both.

I can't imagine him stepping into free agency and have GMs screaming take my money. Yeah, he had a very special year, but judging by the accolades the linemen got, coupled with his injury history should make most teams pause before blowing a ton of cash on him.

That said, Dallas can't assume to just replace his performance this season with a guy chosen in the 3rd round or later.

You need a 1st round or high 2nd round pick to replace that kind of performance on a sustained basis. He made way too many special plays this season to think otherwise.

Dallas needs to re-sign him on a 4 year deal and also draft another running back right around the 3rd round-- OR use one of the first two picks.

We can't afford to allow an injury at the position to jeopardize our season. We were fortunate this year that that beast kept playing-- a series in almost every quarter.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Yesterday sucked but in terms of hurt, I'd rate it behind every Cowboys postseason loss from the late 70's-early 80's and '94 NFCC game. Namely the '78 Super Bowl and '81 NFCC game.

Maybe it's due to when I was growing up the Cowboys were not only bigger than life to me but I also expected them to vie for the Super Bowl every year. And '94 was one of the dominant teams but with SF basically buying a championship the previous offseason combined with us imploding in the 1st quarter falling behind 21-0 we didn't have enough to comeback, especially with Deion getting away with muggings. But we had the team that would've been capable of giving us a record 3 and maybe 4 championships in a row.

Yesterday was painful to watch how it went down but I had zero expectations we'd be over .500 this year. And even at 12-4, it'd take near perfect play and bounces to go our way to beat the Seahawks again in Seattle and then the Pats. If I thought we had a championship caliber team it'd be worse, but our defense was average at best and then we have Ro McClain going out every week and down to two DT's who weren't on the active roster a month ago. Even though we should've won yesterday I doubt we'd have gone any farther.

 

[boozeman]

I agree that yesterday blew, but I still think that is as close as we will get to glory any time soon. There was a little magic to this season, which sucked me in....far more than say the 2009 season. This was painful, because I honestly think we had a chance to make it. Beat Green Bay...I think we could beat Seattle again.

I do not see us duplicating a 12-4 division title next season unless a lot of things break right, which is about what happened this year. Romo is going to be a year older. Witten is at the end of the road. We are likely to lose some assistants and players. Just not confident we make the right moves to cope with the natural turnover.

And Jerry is still the GM.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Strategy? What's strategic about letting the leagues best QB have an extra few seconds? Thats all he needs. The Cowboys have no one that can produce a credible pass rush. Charles Haley would have made play after play in that game. Same with DeMarcus Ware. You have to have those people or you just come up short.

That's the difference. No defense, no championship.

There are some that can move him out of the pocket. The strategy used was a cover defense with 3 or 4 rushing. I didnt see very much effort to blitz or move up the middle. Virtually all defensive rushes came from positions that kept Rodgers in the packet. There were a half dozen times that anyone laid a hand on him.

 

[VA Cowboy]

I agree that yesterday blew, but I still think that is as close as we will get to glory any time soon.

I agree. That's the worse part about it. We have a young potentially dominant OL, Dez and a quality LB corp. Witten is at his end, Romo is nearing the end and will be hard pressed to duplicate his success, especially the TD/INT ratio of this year. The DL has no star playmakers, the defensive backfield should be basically set with Carr and Mo, but instead Mo's a bust and Carr has been avg. along with both safeties.

Even if we make the right moves the next couple of years with the defense and get it up to par we'll be at the point of needing to find a QB. And I'm pretty sure we won't even look for a potential replacement until Romo is gone.

 

[boozeman]

I agree. That's the worse part about it. We have a young potentially dominant OL, Dez and a quality LB corp. Witten is at his end, Romo is nearing the end and will be hard pressed to duplicate his success, especially the TD/INT ratio of this year. The DL has no star playmakers, the defensive backfield should be basically set with Carr and Mo, but instead Mo's a bust and Carr has been avg. along with both safeties.

Even if we make the right moves the next couple of years with the defense and get it up to par we'll be at the point of needing to find a QB. And I'm pretty sure we won't even look for a potential replacement until Romo is gone.

Now that the season is done, it is easier to reflect on Romo and what he did.

Even with a running game designed to keep the pressure off of him, he still got injured and that is not going to stop.

If I am betting, he will not play next season even as much as he did this season when I think he really gutted it out because he knows his time is short.

 

[kidd]

I don't want to pay him 5-6, but he's still AP and I'm sure there will be a market for him if the Vikes make him available.

The question is, how bad does he want to come home? Enough to sign a team friendly contract? Maybe he'll sign a 3 mill a year deal but with incentives.

I think this team has a 1 or 2 year window to make a serious run at the SB while Romo is still effective, so I'm willing to pull the trigger on AP IF we've also made improvements to the defense.

I can definitely get on board with this. I have been ready to move on from Murray all year.

The fumbles and injuries are just to much

 

[kidd]

It would probably be either a very dumb team, one with a lot of cap space to burn or both.

I can't imagine him stepping into free agency and have GMs screaming take my money. Yeah, he had a very special year, but judging by the accolades the linemen got, coupled with his injury history should make most teams pause before blowing a ton of cash on him.

I hope the Redskins sign him and he sucks for the rest of his career.

 

[boozeman]

I hope the Redskins sign him and he sucks for the rest of his career.

Eh.

Don't care enough about him to wonder where he ends up or what he does. He's like all of them...perishable.

Once they are gone, don't really give a shit what they do.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I can definitely get on board with this. I have been ready to move on from Murray all year.

The fumbles and injuries are just to much

I dont like fumbles either but comparatively speaking he doesnt fumble as much a others. Examples Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck have fumbled twice as much as Murray this season. In fact 21 players have fumbled more than Murray this season.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Now that the season is done, it is easier to reflect on Romo and what he did.

Even with a running game designed to keep the pressure off of him, he still got injured and that is not going to stop.

If I am betting, he will not play next season even as much as he did this season when I think he really gutted it out because he knows his time is short.

Probably. I don't see him staying healthy for another full season or being as successful. Same with Murray if we keep him. He's been injured parts of just about every year since we drafted him. One reason I'd give the money to Dez and let DM walk if it comes to it, not to mention his fumbling.

 

[fortsbest]

What about the Ryan Williams? He looked pretty good in the preseason and if he's brought up as a starter he may not have to deal with the ST issues.