Prospects Dallas Has Shown Interest In - 2023

[Simpleton]

Yeah but I do have to admit I like the idea of Porter in this defense. It's absolutely not a need. But he would be fun to watch in this scheme.

I don't dislike them as prospects at all, and I could accept Porter as a pure BPA pick, but ultimately I'd rather go in a different direction just because CB is arguably the strongest position group on the roster aside from potentially safety or edge rusher.

The difference with CB is that we're seemingly about to invest a huge amount in Diggs, Bland is one of the most promising young players on the roster and Lewis/Gilmore seem like guys who can easily be brought back.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don't dislike them as prospects at all, and I could accept Porter as a pure BPA pick, but ultimately I'd rather go in a different direction just because CB is arguably the strongest position group on the roster aside from potentially safety or edge rusher.

The difference with CB is that we're seemingly about to invest a huge amount in Diggs, Bland is one of the most promising young players on the roster and Lewis/Gilmore seem like guys who can easily be brought back.

Yeah I don't want a corner. I just very much like Porter and I also think he is uniquely a great fit for Quinn and our defense. Probably best that he is gone before 26 so we don't feel the need to take a corner just because he is BPA.

I sort of hope Will McDonald is gone. I very much like the guy but I really don't want a DE in the first.

 

[boozeman]

Yeah I don't want a corner. I just very much like Porter and I also think he is uniquely a great fit for Quinn and our defense. Probably best that he is gone before 26 so we don't feel the need to take a corner just because he is BPA.

I sort of hope Will McDonald is gone. I very much like the guy but I really don't want a DE in the first.

I would take a DE in the first.

Lookit, we have to prepare for Lawrence being gone, okay?

 

[armadillooutlaw]

I would take a DE in the first.

Lookit, we have to prepare for Lawrence being gone, okay?

Lookit, Sam Williams takes Lawrence's place, okay? You have Micah as the other primary DE, plus your pet cat Armstrong can probably be brought back on another fairly reasonable deal, as well. Fowler for mop-up duty.
Of course, if a super stud DE falls to Dallas, a la Lamb, things change.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I would take a DE in the first.

Lookit, we have to prepare for Lawrence being gone, okay?

It's why we drafted Sam MFing Williams in the second round. Let the young dog eat.

 

[Simpleton]

Lookit, Sam Williams takes Lawrence's place, okay? You have Micah as the other primary DE, plus your pet cat Armstrong can probably be brought back on another fairly reasonable deal, as well. Fowler for mop-up duty.
Of course, if a super stud DE falls to Dallas, a la Lamb, things change.

The problem with Parsons is that he's not built like a traditional DE, particularly in terms of a lack of length. We have to be very careful that he doesn't wear down physically and lose what makes him so special, his burst and explosiveness, and for that unique reason I'd be fine taking another DE high so that we can be as flexible as possible with him.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

The problem with Parsons is that he's not built like a traditional DE, particularly in terms of a lack of length. We have to be very careful that he doesn't wear down physically and lose what makes him so special, his burst and explosiveness, and for that unique reason I'd be fine taking another DE high so that we can be as flexible as possible with him.

So draft an end next year. I don't want one this year. We have plenty of guys to give Parsons a breather this year. It's too early to use a premium pick to give Parsons a breather a year or two down the road.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

The problem with Parsons is that he's not built like a traditional DE, particularly in terms of a lack of length. We have to be very careful that he doesn't wear down physically and lose what makes him so special, his burst and explosiveness, and for that unique reason I'd be fine taking another DE high so that we can be as flexible as possible with him.

I totally agree, which is why Parsons should be used at DE moreso around 60-65% of the time. Just don't need a first round DE to spell him when you have Williams, and could probably affordably keep Armstrong and Fowler after this year.
Who's to say Lawrence wouldn't even do a new deal at a decent price?

 

[Simpleton]

So draft an end next year. I don't want one this year. We have plenty of guys to give Parsons a breather this year. It's too early to use a premium pick to give Parsons a breather a year or two down the road.

I don't feel like getting on this merry go round again but you always seem to forget the caveat of "depending on their board".

If they have a DE like McDonald as their last 1st rounder or whatever and take him I'd be happy about it as opposed to just stomaching a pick like Porter even if Porter is the better prospect.

That's the distinction I'm drawing between the positional needs here.

 

[Simpleton]

I totally agree, which is why Parsons should be used at DE moreso around 60-65% of the time. Just don't need a first round DE to spell him when you have Williams, and could probably affordably keep Armstrong and Fowler after this year.
Who's to say Lawrence wouldn't even do a new deal at a decent price?

They don't need one that high, just saying there is a rationale for taking one that high if that's where their board takes them.

I can't see many scenarios where I'd take a DE at 26 if it was up to me, barring someone like Murphy or Van Ness dropping.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don't feel like getting on this merry go round again but you always seem to forget the caveat of "depending on their board".

If they have a DE like McDonald as their last 1st rounder or whatever and take him I'd be happy about it as opposed to just stomaching a pick like Porter even if Porter is the better prospect.

That's the distinction I'm drawing between the positional needs here.

No I know and I think Quinn is right with you. If the option is his I don't think he would have any problem drafting a DE in the first. It's why I hope a guy like McDonald is just not available.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Would love his fit here but he is top 15 in my opinion.

 

[ravidubey]

I mean there are 4 OGs. Clearly we see the need there too.

Going first round there might also be over-indexing on the OL like we did ten years ago with three first rounders in four years up front.

I guess if the value fits, then do it, but I really want to spread the wealth. Dak isn’t the only one who needs help. We need to protect Micah too

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Going first round there might also be over-indexing

Was it bad? We had one of the best Olines in football. It helped Zeke and Dak produce right off the bat.

If our defense was lacking talent I may agree to spread the wealth but we plugged our holes pretty well. If we can find a dominant guard I'm all for it. Tyron is near or at the end. Martin is still a beast but getting up there in age. I wouldn't mind a mauler at LG at all. To pair with Tyler to make a dominant duo for the next decade to run behind, sounds like a fun idea.

Maybe it's overkill but it's better than the alternative. If your Oline sucks, everything on offense suddenly sucks.

But I'd also be game for Mazi Smith. The guy is a physical beast. Would love to have one of those in the middle.

 

[ravidubey]

Was it bad? We had one of the best Olines in football. It helped Zeke and Dak produce right off the bat.

If our defense was lacking talent I may agree to spread the wealth but we plugged our holes pretty well. If we can find a dominant guard I'm all for it. Tyron is near or at the end. Martin is still a beast but getting up there in age. I wouldn't mind a mauler at LG at all. To pair with Tyler to make a dominant duo for the next decade to run behind, sounds like a fun idea.

Maybe it's overkill but it's better than the alternative. If your Oline sucks, everything on offense suddenly sucks.

But I'd also be game for Mazi Smith. The guy is a physical beast. Would love to have one of those in the middle.

I think in the end it was bad we had too much draft capital sunk into a single position group.

It’s awesome to have a great OL, but not if it cost three #1 picks.

Great Wall of Dallas— not a single first round choice. Definitive proof it can be done more responsibly than by burning multiple first rounders.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think in the end it was bad we had too much draft capital sunk into a single position group.

It’s awesome to have a great OL, but not if it cost three #1 picks.

Great Wall of Dallas— not a single first round choice. Definitive proof it can be done more responsibly than by burning multiple first rounders.

What about 2 first round picks?

 

[ravidubey]

What about 2 first round picks?

Not bad, just not spread around well. What helps is that the first one already went to filling an elite position, LT.

My favorite OL combo is highest pick at LOT and next highest pick at center. Then coach up a bunch of mid-rounders with a sprinkle of journeymen and FA’s.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Not bad, just not spread around well. What helps is that the first one already went to filling an elite position, LT.

My favorite OL combo is highest pick at LOT and next highest pick at center. Then coach up a bunch of mid-rounders with a sprinkle of journeymen and FA’s.

I mean you could say that about anything. The best TEs aren't first round picks. The best offenses don't have a bunch of first round picks on the Oline. The best offenses don't invest heavily at RB. Truth is the only thing you can really say about great offenses is they usually have an elite QB and highly drafted WRs.

But all great offenses also have really good offensive lines. They just aren't often packed with multiple first round picks.

Personally, I'm just happy to have a great offensive line. If it's because of high draft picks so be it.

 

[Simpleton]

Spending what we did on the OL in the 2010's wasn't a mistake, if it wasn't for that limp dick Garrett we would've made at least one Super Bowl and possibly even won it. That 2012-15ish Seahawks defense was generational and our OL/running game struck the fear of God in them in 2014 when their defense was arguably at their peak.

That short-lived OL group from 2014-2016 or so was one of the best, if not the best of the last 15-20 years, and it took a ridiculous string of bad luck for them not to be recognized as such, from the string of injuries to Romo in 2015 and 2016, Frederick's abrupt retirement, Elliott being suspended for half a season for nothing in 2017, the Dez catch, and of course being weighed down by a HC who literally shouldn't have even been in the league.

So long story short, I'd be perfectly fine spending another 1st on the OL, especially since our defense is fully formed and ready to be perhaps the best unit in the league next year.