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So you just gave up Bobby Carpenter, Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett. I'm cool with that.
As long as we didn't just give up Dez Bryant, Frederick and Sean Lee...
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So you just gave up Bobby Carpenter, Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett. I'm cool with that.
As long as we didn't just give up Dez Bryant, Frederick and Sean Lee...
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This is just moronic, let's spend our first three picks every year on QB's, since "a franchise QB can do a lot for you even in a circus like Dallas" and "we're headed for doom anyway so we have nothing to lose". The key word in franchise QB is franchise, not even the greatest QB's can win without a good team around them (see Marino, Fouts, early Elway, late Brady, Manning, etc.), I don't trust JJ as far as I can throw him to get things right, but I like his chances to "blindly luck into something", better with more picks.
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What if it turns out to be a mixure of Ware, Carpenter and an average player like Bruce Carter?
Would he be worth it then?
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Yep.
And if the QB doesn't work out I'd take another stab at a QB at the top of the draft as soon as possible. The right QB can change the course of a franchise dramatically. As we have seen with Ware, even a guy with Hall of Fame numbers can't transform an entire unit by himself. We can talk about how Manziel isn't a can't miss prospect but short of Andrew Luck who is? I don't care what you offered the Colts weren't giving up that pick on a can't miss prospect like Luck.
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Correct.
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I refuse to submit to this mentality. I still want this team to win, and doing something very risky like this could potentially put that off even further. Say Jerry did it and he busts, how long do you think it would be again before he would try for a QB high in the draft again.
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I don't know....but we're going on 25 years since we last did that, what's 25 more?
Exactly.
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It depends on how you feel about the player.
If it was Andrew Luck, you trade two firsts and a second for him all day long. There is not much of an argument to be made that you shouldn't, when your starter is 34 years old, has only won 1 playoff game, and your team is flirting with a rebuild.
If it's Sam Bradford or Matt Stafford, that's a little different. You have to do your homework and make sure that you are sure he's gonna work out. That's why there are workouts, film breakdown, interviews, etc.
There certainly are QBs I would have paid to move up for to that extent, even ones who don't go first overall. I would have loved to move up for a Ben Roethlisberger, who I loved, or also a Matt Leinart, who did not pan out. I would use as an example also a guy like Matt Ryan who had a fairly safe label on him, though lacking upside, as someone who would probably be worth the price.
Manziel might be a little risky. But if the team evaluated him and decided he was worth it, I would applaud the move. Cause you are gonna have to get in the top 5 for him most likely.
If he falls to 10 or something, it's a no brainer.
If it was Andrew Luck, you trade two firsts and a second for him all day long. There is not much of an argument to be made that you shouldn't, when your starter is 34 years old, has only won 1 playoff game, and your team is flirting with a rebuild.
If it's Sam Bradford or Matt Stafford, that's a little different. You have to do your homework and make sure that you are sure he's gonna work out. That's why there are workouts, film breakdown, interviews, etc.
There certainly are QBs I would have paid to move up for to that extent, even ones who don't go first overall. I would have loved to move up for a Ben Roethlisberger, who I loved, or also a Matt Leinart, who did not pan out. I would use as an example also a guy like Matt Ryan who had a fairly safe label on him, though lacking upside, as someone who would probably be worth the price.
Manziel might be a little risky. But if the team evaluated him and decided he was worth it, I would applaud the move. Cause you are gonna have to get in the top 5 for him most likely.
If he falls to 10 or something, it's a no brainer.
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Trading away that many pieces for Manziel is actually an acknowledgement of how far you are away. It's an acknowledgement that you are too many drafts away from being a contender, realistically, with this core. So in reality, trying to cobble together assets for this particular team is the bigger waste of time. Under that line of thinking anyway.
Of course, our interview here is probably just due diligence in case of an Aaron Rodgers like slide. If he's there at 16 you have to pull the trigger, really.
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I don't think it's as much due dilligence as it is Jerruh interviewing the star of Texas college football.
We tried lak hell to get that ther Johnny Football. Thought he'd make a great Dallus Cawboy. ~wink~
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Someone needs to teach Deuce how to post a tweet.
I usually just use the site from my ipad app and you can only cut/paste from there. Now I'm on a laptop and I don't know where you get the numbers from.
Either way, GFY.
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