Dak Watch Thread...

Iamtdg said:
Jesus fucking Christ. :picard
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If it were up to this board, we would have the lowest payroll in the league, finishing 0-16 every year with Mark Sanchez at QB playing in an incentives-only contract.
 
Angrymesscan said:
I remember it was pretty high up there, but I don’t know.
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NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Friday that the Cowboys and Romo agreed to a six-year, $108 million contract extension with $55 million in guarantees and a $25 million signing bonus, according to the quarterback's agent, RJ Gonser.


The extension goes into effect after the 2013 season, when Romo earns $11.5 million, essentially giving him a seven-year, $119.5 million contract through 2019.


The deal makes Romo the highest-paid player in Cowboys history and tops the $52 million in guarantees that Joe Flacco received from the Baltimore Ravens as part of his six-year, $120.6 million pact.
 
p1_ said:
NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Friday that the Cowboys and Romo agreed to a six-year, $108 million contract extension with $55 million in guarantees and a $25 million signing bonus, according to the quarterback's agent, RJ Gonser.


The extension goes into effect after the 2013 season, when Romo earns $11.5 million, essentially giving him a seven-year, $119.5 million contract through 2019.


The deal makes Romo the highest-paid player in Cowboys history and tops the $52 million in guarantees that Joe Flacco received from the Baltimore Ravens as part of his six-year, $120.6 million pact.
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Ok, biggest in franchise history. Just curious where it ranked in the league. I remember by the 2nd year of his deal, he was ranked 9th or 10th.
 
What is the board's general feeling on Prescott? I'm way too lazy to read this entire thread. On one hand, I understand trying to get as much money as possible, but in a capped system, is that the smartest idea if you are trying to win championships? I feel that Dak is a least one step below elite and his contract will be an albatross around the franchise's neck. But what are you to do? Do you let a good QB walk, because his abilities aren't worth his market value? Tough situation. The Patriots were so lucky for so long because Tom Brady didn't demand the market value he actually deserved. IMO, a huge factor in their dynasty that will probably never be matched.
 
Bill Shatner said:
What is the board's general feeling on Prescott? I'm way too lazy to read this entire thread. On one hand, I understand trying to get as much money as possible, but in a capped system, is that the smartest idea if you are trying to win championships? I feel that Dak is a least one step below elite and his contract will be an albatross around the franchise's neck. But what are you to do? Do you let a good QB walk, because his abilities aren't worth his market value? Tough situation. The Patriots were so lucky for so long because Tom Brady didn't demand the market value he actually deserved. IMO, a huge factor in their dynasty that will probably never be matched.
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I know you're not really comparing Dak and Brady.
 
Bill Shatner said:
What is the board's general feeling on Prescott? I'm way too lazy to read this entire thread. On one hand, I understand trying to get as much money as possible, but in a capped system, is that the smartest idea if you are trying to win championships? I feel that Dak is a least one step below elite and his contract will be an albatross around the franchise's neck. But what are you to do? Do you let a good QB walk, because his abilities aren't worth his market value? Tough situation. The Patriots were so lucky for so long because Tom Brady didn't demand the market value he actually deserved. IMO, a huge factor in their dynasty that will probably never be matched.
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The board is about 70/30, pro-Dak vs TRADE THE SUMBITCH!
 
Iamtdg said:
The board is about 70/30, pro-Dak vs TRADE THE SUMBITCH!
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Put me in the category of negotiating a deal that is market value. And making him the highest paid player in the fucking league, ain't it.
 
Put me in the category: this is just another off-season gripe-a-thon thread.

Don't really see the franchise tag hindering the team.
 
p1_ said:
I know you're not really comparing Dak and Brady.
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Pretty obvious he was just comparing their contracts as one wanting to be the highest paid and the other taking a below market deal to help the team. Didn't see anything there that would actually compare their play.
 
Angrymesscan said:
I understand and have no issue with that. But I’m intrigued how you felt when Romo got his. I’m fine with both getting it, I’m just wondering about your take. Did you have the same criteria back then or did what happened with Romo change your point of view. So what was your take when Romo got his deal? Was it ok for him to get tier 1 money? Or did you think it was a mistake?
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I’m sure a few of you remember how violently angry I got with Romo’s deal. That albatross contract was written deliberately to be restructured nearly every year to ensure that Romo got 100% of that money.
 
Would like to see Dak show he is top tier and hope he can. I don’t think he is quite there yet but the upcoming Season should answer the question one way or another. In my view it is a mistake to enter into a contract until the upcoming season is played and he has the benefit of working with another coaching staff and reveals he is in fact a player who is the future of Cowboys. Conversely it could be a season that says look elsewhere. My mind says he might be the future but my gut says there are some areas I’m not really all in with him.
 
L.T. Fan said:
There are some on this site that believe Dak hasn’t proven himself yet to be paid as tier 1 material. So franchise him and give him an opportunity to prove he is and my personal criteria would be for him to take the team to a conference champion game then he will have proven he deserved a contract at tier 1 pay. That’s just my opinion for him to try to prove himself.

Romo in my view was a proven Quarterback so I personally didn’t question his ability to take the team as far as he could. Obviously injuries changed any chance for him to bring it to fruition.
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Don't his stats prove that he is?
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Don't his stats prove that he is?
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They're certainly better than Romo's over the first 4 years of each starting:

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And Romo had the advantage of learning for 3 years on the bench, and this comparison even gives him the benefit of the first season he started all 16 games, which was his fouth in the league.

Dak still outperforms him in virtually all individual areas, truly distancing himself in rushing and availability.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
Don't his stats prove that he is?
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You are haywire about this obsession of yours. I used Romo’s Stats over his career to demonstrate he held the records for virtually ever QB stat of any who player that position for the Cowboys. The operative word is records. I have never made a comparative per game, season, post season or any other comparative. So this approach to try to keep this goading alive isn’t legit.
 
L.T. Fan said:
You are haywire about this obsession of yours. I used Romo’s Stats over his career to demonstrate he held the records for virtually ever QB stat of any who player that position for the Cowboys. The operative word is records. I have never made a comparative per game, season, post season or any other comparative. So this approach to try to keep this goading alive isn’t legit.
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So stats don't matter to you? Just records do? I'm just curious. Because stats seemed pretty important to you in every other discussion. And obviously you think records are a result of the team and not the individual.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
So stats don't matter to you? Just records do? I'm just curious. Because stats seemed pretty important to you in every other discussion. And obviously you think records are a result of the team and not the individual.
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Stats might be important but stick to the issue, I have never used stats to evaluate or compare Romo vs Dak in any context. That Huey got started by Smith. And your statement that I use stats seem important in every other discussion is just bunk. I rarely use stats.
 
Stasheroo said:
They're certainly better than Romo's over the first 4 years of each starting:

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And Romo had the advantage of learning for 3 years on the bench, and this comparison even gives him the benefit of the first season he started all 16 games, which was his fouth in the league.

Dak still outperforms him in virtually all individual areas, truly distancing himself in rushing and availability.
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Dak also had a ready made offense. Plenty of protection, a rookie rb on a mission, and above avg receivers. Of course he did better. He wasn't having to make #1s out of Miles Austin or Laurent fucking Robinson. Put Dak on that team and he wouldn't have done shit.
 
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