Broncos at Cowboys | Week 5 Game Day Chatter Thread | 10/6/2013

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Genghis Khan said:
I guess I thought that was Ferrigamo. Anyway, not much point if you ask me but Phil seems to think that Romo has had less post season success than almost every decent or better QB in history save a couple. I just can't believe that's true based on my own admittedly faulty memory.

Romo's career isn't even over yet so all of this is pretty much moot at the moment anyway.
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Haden actually lost two NFC Championships. All in all most of the QBs you brought up haven't had anything close to the abilities Romo, nor were they surrounded by the talent Romo has had at times during his tenure. Guys like Ferguson, Lomax, Archie Manning, Todd, Barkowski etc...played on some butt-bad teams overall.
 
boozeman said:
Haden actually lost two NFC Championships. All in all most of the QBs you brought up haven't had anything close to the abilities Romo, nor were they surrounded by the talent Romo has had at times during his tenure. Guys like Ferguson, Lomax, Archie Manning, Todd, Barkowski etc...played on some butt-bad teams overall.
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I don't have the knowledge of the 1970s QBs that Ghengis Khan has...but, yeah, I'm going way down the list of QB quality to find other QBs that haven't gone deep into the playoffs.

Really, only Warren Moon compares.
 
Joplo Bartu. Sounds like a name for an alien in a bad 1950s SciFi movie.
 
pdom said:
I don't have the knowledge of the 1970s QBs that Ghengis Khan has...but, yeah, I'm going way down the list of QB quality to find other QBs that haven't gone deep into the playoffs.

Really, only Warren Moon compares.
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If you are talking statistical prowess...getting gobs of numbers...there really isn't anyone else more applicable than Moon.
 
Wilkerson is having a good game.
 
That's a weak PI call.
 
But, they got that call simply because Ryan was in the ear of the ref.
 
Bosher just horsecollared a guy, then shove a Jet assistant down on the ground. All from a punter, too funny.
 
boozeman said:
Bosher just horsecollared a guy, then shove a Jet assistant down on the ground. All from a punter, too funny.
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It also looked like he mouthed off to Ryan.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Romo has never been given a good head coach.

That said, I'm can't believe you are right. Maybe it comes down to what you think about certain
QBs, but off the top of my head: what about Steve bartkowski, Bert jones, Brian sipe, joe ferguson, Archie manning, pat Hayden, Richard Todd, Steve Grogan, Neil lomax, and I'd guess there's more. I could be wrong but I don't remember any of those guys in a conference championship.
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Out of the QBs you listed, Bartkowski and Bert Jones also had similar misfortune in the playoffs.
Bartkowski - 2 time Pro Bowler - 1-3 playoff record and lost in Divisional Playoffs.
Bert Jones - 1 time Pro Bowler - 0-3 playoff record in three straight Divisional Playoffs. Brutal.

Sipe - 1 time Pro Bowler - 0-2 playoff record, one loss in the Divisional Playoffs.
Archie Manning - 2 time Pro Bowler - never made playoffs
Neil Lomax - 2 time Pro Bowler - 0-1 playoff record

Richard Todd, Joe Ferguson, Steve Grogan never made the Pro Bowl
 
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The Jets had a weird formation there for the TD...Sheldon Richardson was the blocking FB.
 
pdom said:
Out of the QBs you listed, Bartkowski and Bert Jones also had similar misfortune in the playoffs.
Bartkowski - 2 time Pro Bowler - 1-3 playoff record and lost in Divisional Playoffs.
Bert Jones - 1 time Pro Bowler - 0-3 playoff record in three straight Divisional Playoffs. Brutal.

Sipe - 1 time Pro Bowler - 0 playoff wins
Archie Manning - 2 time Pro Bowler - never made playoffs
Neil Lomax - 2 time Pro Bowler - 0-1 playoff record

Richard Todd, Joe Ferguson, Steve Grogan never made the Pro Bowl
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The research you put into that post makes you a dork regardless of the argument.
 
pdom said:
It's not a criticism of Romo - really I'm just exasperated and you'd think that, one of these years, it will finally be our year where it comes together. Don't tell me we had a Romo and the best success we'll ever see is the Divisional Playoffs.
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No it's not about criticizing Romo, it is more a factual thing. No doubt they should be getting more from the Romo years but they never gave him a full season of good coaching unfortunately.
 
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