A week of LGBTQ acceptance education in a middle school. Really?

L.T. Fan said:
Clay. Most laws of a criminal nature deal with a few or tiny amount of the population but nevertheless the laws are needed. This law will probably only deal with a few but that's the nature of things. Most people obey laws so would you repeal laws because only a few people break them?
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If there's no actual behavior causing problems and it's just something people are being paranoid about, sure. The point of outlawing things is to stop people from being destructive or disruptive. I don't see where trans people have been demonstrated to be either. When was the last time a trans dude came into a restroom and bothered you or anyone else? It's an imaginary problem.
 
Clay_Allison said:
If there's no actual behavior causing problems and it's just something people are being paranoid about, sure. The point of outlawing things is to stop people from being destructive or disruptive. I don't see where trans people have been demonstrated to be either. When was the last time a trans dude came into a restroom and bothered you or anyone else? It's an imaginary problem.
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I don't know what kind of history there is in that regard but laws can also be enacted to try to prohibit certain activities. Who really knows how things will sort out but there is one constant, most people are not comfortable about the potential and taking a stand or being preemptive via laws isn't in itself a bad thing. I still maintain that people will continue to react normally unless an abnormal circumstance occurs. This law isn't prohibitive at all with trans sexuals it simply is keeping the status quo regarding the use of public rest rooms.
 
townsend said:
I'm not a typical anything, you're just a guy who hasn't bothered to challenge himself or his own views. You're a man with a 20 year old's view on life, who colors his world with the small box of crayons, which is why dismissing someone as some archetypal other is so easy for you.

Which isn't to say you're unintelligent, just incredibly lazy, and too scared to come out of the cocoon of your post adolescent worldview.

I had a similar perspective to you. But then I travelled the world and met people who my small box of crayons didn't work for, and became a better person. It's better to live with some kind of empathy and humility.

Maybe you'll make it out of your blankey one day, but then you might not get to think you're right all the time.
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Wow. Hypocrite much? You try and tell Iamtdg how he should and shouldn't insult people, then you try to insult Schmitty by insinuating he's a child? Should children be offended by this?

Then you say that since he hasn't changed his views, he's wrong? How do you know if he hasn't "challenged himself"? What if over the past ten or so years he has seen things in the world, yet still has the same views? So, if somebody doesn't have the same views as you, they are lazy and haven't challenged themselves... Yet you have "challenged" yourself, and have become a supposedly better person? Ha. Laughable. Then you tell him to come out of his blankey and maybe he'll see he's not right all the time, eh? Please show us one instance where you've admitted to being wrong about something. And saying you were wrong about those articles earlier in this thread doesn't count, because a couple pages later you were right back to claiming the same shit.
 
I have one other question about "challenging yourself." My daughter is 24 years old. She is the democrat/liberal dream. Young, single female minority with child. Her mother is native american, and she has a foster child that is almost 2 years old. Growing up, she was a staunch leftist. It didn't matter what the cause was, as long as it said democrat beside it, she was all for it. So was her boyfriend (now fiance). He's also native american. But something strange happened... They grew up. She is now 24, he's 26. They have jobs. They pay taxes. They're raising a child. And once the real world opened their eyes, I guess they "challenged themselves". They both are now pretty solid conservatives.

So my question is this. Does that count as "challenging themselves?" Or are they just incredibly lazy, scared adults that need to come out of their blankey and head back in to their adolescent cocoon?
 
NoDak said:
I have one other question about "challenging yourself." My daughter is 24 years old. She is the democrat/liberal dream. Young, single female minority with child. Her mother is native american, and she has a foster child that is almost 2 years old. Growing up, she was a staunch leftist. It didn't matter what the cause was, as long as it said democrat beside it, she was all for it. So was her boyfriend (now fiance). He's also native american. But something strange happened... They grew up. She is now 24, he's 26. They have jobs. They pay taxes. They're raising a child. And once the real world opened their eyes, I guess they "challenged themselves". They both are now pretty solid conservatives.

So my question is this. Does that count as "challenging themselves?" Or are they just incredibly lazy, scared adults that need to come out of their blankey and head back in to their adolescent cocoon?
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pretty normal for people to get more conservative as they get older.
 
NoDak said:
Wow. Hypocrite much? You try and tell Iamtdg how he should and shouldn't insult people, then you try to insult Schmitty by insinuating he's a child? Should children be offended by this?

Then you say that since he hasn't changed his views, he's wrong? How do you know if he hasn't "challenged himself"? What if over the past ten or so years he has seen things in the world, yet still has the same views? So, if somebody doesn't have the same views as you, they are lazy and haven't challenged themselves... Yet you have "challenged" yourself, and have become a supposedly better person? Ha. Laughable. Then you tell him to come out of his blankey and maybe he'll see he's not right all the time, eh? Please show us one instance where you've admitted to being wrong about something. And saying you were wrong about those articles earlier in this thread doesn't count, because a couple pages later you were right back to claiming the same shit.
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First of all, I would think mentioning that I once possessed the same "sheltered libertarian man-child" perspective as Schmitty, proves that I was wrong. In this particular argument I've also been far more willing to hedge than you or Schmitty, or Va, or Iamtg. I don't claim to know everything about trans people or their mental faculties. But I've probably had more conversations with trans persons than you 4. So Insuspect you know even less and have no right to be so confident.

By the way, not understanding the difference between childish and retarded is a brilliant demonstration of the monochromatic worldview I was talking about. Children are expected to become adults, you can tell a child he's being childish, in an expectation that he should act more like an adult. Retarded people don't become not retarded. If I say someone is being immature it means they're falling short of their potential, if I called the same person retarded I'd be equivocating their preventable character flaw, that they should feel guilty for, with an unchanging disability. Therefore I'd be demonstrating that retarded people should feel bad about their handicap. It's called nuance bro, use your healthy brain and perceive it.
 
townsend said:
Can trans people use toilets in their house with children around, or should they leave the premises just in case they accidentally leave the door open?
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It's funny because your argument fits perfectly why a transgender can use the restroom of their birth gender. There is no harm to a transgendered person to use that restroom.

It's why this is a fictitious battle for attention seeking people.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
It's funny because your argument fits perfectly why a transgender can use the restroom of their birth gender. There is no harm to a transgendered person to use that restroom.

It's why this is a fictitious battle for attention seeking people.
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Exactly. I don't know why it is so important for them to have to use a different bathroom. If it's truly about having to use the bathroom, then just use it and then get out. Not real difficult. Not a major issue.

This is all about social engineering and forcing liberal beliefs down people's throats again.
 
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/tra...ans-with-a-simple-message-to-gov-pat-mccrory/

 
Jiggyfly said:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/tra...ans-with-a-simple-message-to-gov-pat-mccrory/

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Oooh. She has a beard. Nice.

What's in her pants?
 
fortsbest said:
Iam,
My stepson had issues with serious seizures not retardation. But his Mom had dealt with the seriousness of it for years before we married. I found this poem and it's written for a Mom, but to me applies to both parents equally. I'm sure you have seen it before but I post this for you sir.

God Chooses Mom for Disabled Child
Written by Erma Bombeck Published in the Today Newspaper Sept. 4th, 1993

Most women become mothers by accident, some by choice, a few by social pressures, and a couple by habit. This year, nearly 100,000 women will become mothers of handicapped children.

Did you ever wonder how mothers of handicapped children are chosen? Somehow I visualize God hovering over Earth selecting his instruments forpropagation with great care and deliberation. As he observes, he instructs his angels to make notes in a giant ledger.
"Armstrong, Beth; son; patron saint, Matthew.
"Forrest, Marjorie; daughter; patron saint, Cecelia.
"Rudledge, Carrie; twins; patron saint.... give her Gerard. He's used to profanity.
" Finally, he passes a name to an angel and smiles, "Give her a handicapped child."
The angel is curious. "Why this one, God? She's so happy."
"Exactly," smiles God. "Could I give a handicapped child a mother who does not know laughter? That would be cruel."
"But has she patience?" asks the angel.
"I don't want her to have too much patience or she will drown in a sea of self-pity and despair. Once the shock and resentment wears off, she'll handle it."
"I watched her today. She has that feeling of self and independence. She'll have to teach the child to live in her world and that's not going to be easy."
"But, Lord, I don't think she even believes in you."
God smiles. "No matter. I can fix that. This one is perfect. She has just enough selfishness." The angel gasps, "Selfishness? Is that a virtue?"
God nods. "If she can't separate herself from the child occasionally, she'll never survive. Yes, there is a woman I will bless with a child less then perfect. She doesn't realize it yet, but she is to be envied. She will never take for granted a spoken word. She will never consider a step ordinary. When her child says "Momma" for the first time, she will be present at a miracle and know it! When she describes a tree or a sunset to her blind child, she will see it as few people ever see my creations." "I will permit her to see clearly the things I see---ignorance, cruelty, prejudice--- and allow her to rise above them. She will never be alone. I will be at her side every minute of every day of her life because she is doing my work as surely as she is here by my side."
"And what about her patron saint?" asks the angel, his pen poised in midair.
God smiles. "A mirror will suffice."
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That's great, man. Thanks for posting that.
 
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