2026 Season | Week 5 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Bucs @ Cowboys | 10/08/2026

I'd really love for someone to tell me exactly why Schottenheimer is better than Garrett, beyond the fact that we had to watch Garrett about 7 years longer than we should have.

Just purely in terms of quality as a HC, why is Schottenheimer better?

We had horrific defenses early on under Garrett also, went 8-8 three straight years, and we seem to be on roughly the same path right now. 7-9-1 last year, 8-9 or 9-8 this year, do we think we'll somehow jump to 12-5 next year?

Puppet HC, childish game management, big moments where you can tell their brains stop working, consistently lacking in the finer points of the game that top HC's obsess over, meager results with top offensive talent, led the league in penalties last year, so on and so forth.

Sure, Garrett was a smarmy backstabber, but Schottenheimer clearly schmoozed his way into the job as well during the interview process last year. Schmoozing isn't as bad as tanking the previous HC but being an asshole isn't part of judging a HC's quality.

I think you could give Schottenheimer 10 years and he'd never once sniff being the 1 seed in the conference like 2016.

Garrett was arguably the worst HC in this team's history, never should've lasted past 2-3 years and I hated him as much as anyone, but we're 22 games into Schottenheimer's regime and I can't see how anybody could think he's any better.

@Genghis Khan
 
I'd really love for someone to tell me exactly why Schottenheimer is better than Garrett, beyond the fact that we had to watch Garrett about 7 years longer than we should have.

Just purely in terms of quality as a HC, why is Schottenheimer better?

We had horrific defenses early on under Garrett also, went 8-8 three straight years, and we seem to be on roughly the same path right now. 7-9-1 last year, 8-9 or 9-8 this year, do we think we'll somehow jump to 12-5 next year?

Puppet HC, childish game management, big moments where you can tell their brains stop working, consistently lacking in the finer points of the game that top HC's obsess over, meager results with top offensive talent, led the league in penalties last year, so on and so forth.

Sure, Garrett was a smarmy backstabber, but Schottenheimer clearly schmoozed his way into the job as well during the interview process last year. Schmoozing isn't as bad as tanking the previous HC but being an asshole isn't part of judging a HC's quality.

I think you could give Schottenheimer 10 years and he'd never once sniff being the 1 seed in the conference like 2016.

Garrett was arguably the worst HC in this team's history, never should've lasted past 2-3 years and I hated him as much as anyone, but we're 22 games into Schottenheimer's regime and I can't see how anybody could think he's any better.

@Genghis Khan
Garrett wasn’t this bad.
 
Makes no sense because now you are forced to go for 2 if somehow you score again just to tie. Fucking dumb.
Can you imagine if we get the ball back, score, and miss the two pointer?
 
now Guyton's hurt, damn
 
big Q time
 
If we lose this 24-23... :budd
 
Barham hurt
 
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