2026 Cowboys Free Agency Thread…

Cowboysrock55 said:
No offense but I think you have this backwards. Like you mentioned, there is no reason to be hyped about Delane. He didn't go out and run a 4.38 forty or do anything since the college football season ended to "improve his stock." What you're really seeing is that the media scouts just don't have a good handle on things, much like every year. They get a better handle on things during the combine when they hear from real NFL people and see what real NFL scouts think of these players. And the more they hear and talk to people the more they realize what range a guy like Delane actually deserves to be in as opposed to where they had them during the season.

I think Delane has always been a top 10-15 pick though. He had a tremendous season. The only real concern is the measurables stuff. And even at that Delane is is sort of the bottom of my favorite defensive picks at 12. The last of the top tier in my book. After that I'd like to trade down.
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Good points, sir, good points
 
ravidubey said:
Yes, it's intentionally ambiguous by design, but NFL average is 65-70% nickel and adding another 10% for dime coverages-- and it's almost always going to be one or both of our ILB's who come off the field.
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I doubt you'll ever see both ILBers come off the field in nickel defense. That would be a pretty crazy defense.

Here is the fun part of having a safety who can also play the nickel corner spot. You can stay in your base defense against a 3 WR set by just having a safety capable of covering a slot receiver. You can also have a nickel defense that only has 2 corners.

Again, think versatility with the DBs with this defensive coordinator. It's intentional. He wants guys that can play multiple roles. Because he wants to be able to confuse the offense so that the other team doesn't know if the safety is a deep safety or if he is going to creep up and play slot corner. And this isn't some sort of brilliant new concept. We were doing this stuff with Darren Woodson before it was cool to do it.
 
NoDak said:
You’re hung up on the thought that we need a starting corner and that Revel is being looked at as that starter. And are scared because of it. You don’t want to draft one of the guys in the first that are thought of as a day 1 starter. And you want to trade down before taking a corner. Is that CB that you’d take in the 3rd/4th that starter you say we need? They’d have just as many questions as Revel, if not more. Your arguments contradict each other.
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I would trust most of those players to rotate in with Revel and company to mount an effective defense.

Yes, the position MUST be addressed, and the drafts second and even third day can handle it.

We don't need to use a first rounder on a CB, but if one really is the BPA AND we can not trade down because there literally is no suitor at either 12 or 20 (that would be really hard to believe given all the shiny WRs and CBs NFL GM's love), then I wouldn't hesitate to draft one.

If we do that though, I think we wasted ammo and left the best value of this draft on the war room floor because we were too lazy to trade down.
 
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NoDak said:
You’re hung up on the thought that we need a starting corner and that Revel is being looked at as that starter. And are scared because of it. You don’t want to draft one of the guys in the first that are thought of as a day 1 starter. And you want to trade down before taking a corner. Is that CB that you’d take in the 3rd/4th that starter you say we need? They’d have just as many questions as Revel, if not more. Your arguments contradict each other.
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Don't even have to trade down to take one in the third/fourth. Just take one in the third or fourth. You'll hear no argument against it from me. Give me Ponds in the third. The cool thing about signing Durant is that I now have confidence that maybe the team won't be hung up on the "long" corner thing anymore. Perfect, give me Ponds in the third who is a hell of a player but 5'9" 182. I'll take it all day long.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I have no idea how we will handle nickel this year. But odds are your OLBers will be taking on more of a DE role in nickel. Which means you may still have more 2 real LBers on the field. Think of it like your normal 4-2-5. Or it could be more of a 3-3-5 with one DE being Gary and one OLBer being EZ.
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Correct.
 
NoDak said:
Speaking of lazy… always assuming that trading down is an easy thing to do. And claiming we don’t do it because we’re… lazy.
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Yeah it's easy to say trade down. I think most of us want to trade down every year. Hell most years I can name a crap ton of guys in the second round I'd love. Give me as many picks as possible.

But I'm sure the fans of most NFL teams feel the same way. But you can only do it if someone else feels the opposite. They have to want to sacrifice those players to move up for 1 guy. The good news is we see NFL teams trade up or down every year so there are usually opportunities. But that is no guarantee. And even less of a guarantee that you'll get fair value for a trade down. I'm not moving down from 12 for a fourth round pick. Like I'm drawing the line at the second/third round. If I'm not getting that type of return that the trade down in the first is bullshit anyway and not worth it.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
No offense but I think you have this backwards. Like you mentioned, there is no reason to be hyped about Delane. He didn't go out and run a 4.38 forty or do anything since the college football season ended to "improve his stock." What you're really seeing is that the media scouts just don't have a good handle on things, much like every year. They get a better handle on things during the combine when they hear from real NFL people and see what real NFL scouts think of these players. And the more they hear and talk to people the more they realize what range a guy like Delane actually deserves to be in as opposed to where they had them during the season.

I think Delane has always been a top 10-15 pick though. He had a tremendous season. The only real concern is the measurables stuff. And even at that Delane is is sort of the bottom of my favorite defensive picks at 12. The last of the top tier in my book. After that I'd like to trade down.
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Couldn't agree more. I couldn't care less about the measurables I think he's the best corner in the draft.
 
NoDak said:
Speaking of lazy… always assuming that trading down is an easy thing to do. And claiming we don’t do it because we’re… lazy.
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I hear you, and partners need to have folks they are willing to trade up for.

Unlike last year when we over-drafted Booker at 12 (and got a fine player) , there are a lot of shiny folks to trade for.

One of Downs, Styles, Delane, McCoy, Tate, or even Lemon at 12 could be worth a lot for a Tennessee(DBs), KC (DBs), Denver (WR), Buffalo (WR), or the Rams (WR) to trade up and get. Frankly if Styles falls I take him, and Parker prolly would cream over a chance to get Downs (whom I'd trade the option for).

Mauigoa or Fano could easily fall to 12, too, and with Proctor they are elite OTs someone will want while Dallas has overdrafted the position in the 1st round and prolly won't again.

You can repeat that story at 20 with a different cast, this time it's Terrell, Mesidor, or Lemon if he falls.

These are attractive targets, and I don't see the Cowboys taking an OT or WR, or even Love if he fell given how historically bad we were on defense.
 
Every year, people become retarded looking at workout numbers. Players shoot up the board because of some measurable. Or fall down the board.

Makes no sense to me that, for example, a corner that’s routinely getting beat all year suddenly becomes desirable because they run a 4.32 40 and have an 11’ broadjump. Uhhh… he still can’t cover!! Or conversely, the guy that dominates all year, but at the combine, ~gasp~ HE HAS SHORT ARMS!!
 
NoDak said:
Every year, people become retarded looking at workout numbers. Players shoot up the board because of some measurable. Or fall down the board.
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Yep. I mean the perfect example of why measurables sometimes don't mean shit is Jerry Rice. The GOAT didn't have great numbers, but he was a monster route runner and workout king. Some things can't have a concrete measurement put on them. His intangibles are what made him the best ever. Not a 40 yard dash.
 
Point is, there are guys at 12 or 20 who people will be willing to trade picks or players to get, and Dallas needs those picks or players.

If I had no option to trade, then I'd likely take
12: Styles or the best non-safety defender, preferably pass rusher

20: The best defender, or Caleb Banks if his foot is OK (passes doc inspection)

92: The best CB if I haven't drafted one. Barring some kind of insane run, there will be one really good one here.

112: The BPA at Defense, OT, RB, TE. Lots of EDGE, CBs, maybe a LB. Jalon Kilgore could be here, or if we're really lucky, Jonah Coleman.
 
ravidubey said:
Point is, there are guys at 12 or 20 who people will be willing to trade picks or players to get, and Dallas needs those picks or players.

If I had no option to trade, then I'd likely take
12: Styles or the best non-safety defender, preferably pass rusher

20: The best defender, or Caleb Banks if his foot is OK (passes doc inspection)

92: The best CB if I haven't drafted one. Barring some kind of insane run, there will be one really good one here.

112: The BPA at Defense, OT, RB, TE. Lots of EDGE, CBs, maybe a LB. Jalon Kilgore could be here, or if we're really lucky, Jonah Coleman.
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I don't mean it to seem like I am piling on, but you can't draft for position. You can hope that certain players are there at your picks that fill certain needs for sure, but you damn better be sure you have multiple contingencies in place in case they don't.
 
Cotton said:
Yep. I mean the perfect example of why measurables sometimes don't mean shit is Jerry Rice. The GOAT didn't have great numbers, but he was a monster route runner and workout king. Some things can't have a concrete measurement put on them. His intangibles are what made him the best ever. Not a 40 yard dash.
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Yeah, Rice needed someone chasing him to show his speed.

His pace showed an illusion that he was cruising when he was really accelerating. People always underestimated his speed.
 
Cotton said:
I don't mean it to seem like I am piling on, but you can't draft for position. You can hope that certain players are there at your picks that fill certain needs for sure, but you damn better be sure you have multiple contingencies in place in case they don't.
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So you'd be good with two OT's in the draft, if Mauigoa and Fano fell to 12 and 20?

It would be damned great for the offense, that's for sure and address two real needs.

And we can't come away from this draft without a LB, CB and Edge that factor heavily in our rotation/depth so you have to think position.
 
ravidubey said:
Yeah, Rice needed someone chasing him to show his speed.

His pace showed an illusion that he was cruising when he was really accelerating. People always underestimated his speed.
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Well, he ran like a 4.6 40, so some of it wasn't an illusion. :unsure
 
ravidubey said:
So you'd be good with two OT's in the draft, if Mauigoa and Fano fell to 12 and 20?

It would be damned great for the offense, that's for sure and address two real needs.
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I meant specific positions. You can't plan on DL at 12 specifically. But I went back and reread what you posted and you did say or another defender, so I will just shut up now.
 
ravidubey said:
If I had no option to trade, then I'd likely take
12: Styles or the best non-safety defender, preferably pass rusher
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Still not sure why you dislike Downs so much. One of the best safety prospects over the last decade. He was a top 5 type prospect all season long. Dude is an elite talent but you feel very opposed to him. But like I have said, he kind of helps solve the corner concerns and fits this defense perfectly.
 
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