2025 NFL Draft Chatter

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Rev said:
Carter would be that for me.
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Might as well say you hope Hunter or Ward drops to us, or that the NFL retroactively forces Myles Garrett into the draft and he falls to 12.

My point is that there aren't many guys to fall in love with who are in that middle ground where you think they might be available but in the back of your mind you know they'll probably be gone, and ultimately you're hoping that they drop a bit.

Carter and Hunter are top 5 locks, Graham and Jeanty are the only two who are likely to be gone but you could squint a bit and see either dropping to us.
 
He seems pretty down on Egbuka considering his production. Some of that is due to the offense he was in but the guy is a good route runner that produces.
 


Those are really good numbers, unfortunately I don't think we're going to consider another undersized edge rusher who isn't going to give you much vs. the run after signing Fowler and obviously having Parsons.
 
Simpleton said:


Those are really good numbers, unfortunately I don't think we're going to consider another undersized edge rusher who isn't going to give you much vs. the run after signing Fowler and obviously having Parsons.
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And yet I'd take him 10 times out of 10 over Mykel Williams.

Worrying about needing a bigger DE is how you end up with Taco over Watt.
 
Simpleton said:
I'd take him over Williams if the off-field stuff isn't an issue, the team though...
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Yeah I just think it's silly when you have a guy who was a dominant force and checks all the boxes and you take the guy who isn't because he is bigger.

What I have heard is that Green has cleared up the character stuff but who knows.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Yeah I just think it's silly when you have a guy who was a dominant force and checks all the boxes and you take the guy who isn't because he is bigger.

What I have heard is that Green has cleared up the character stuff but who knows.
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Williams is pretty dominant against the run to be fair, and as we've discussed I think his stats are better than what you'd think at first glance, but you always prioritize pass rush over stopping the run when talking about spending premium resources on edge rushers, so yea.
 
Simpleton said:
Williams is pretty dominant against the run to be fair, and as we've discussed I think his stats are better than what you'd think at first glance, but you always prioritize pass rush over stopping the run when talking about spending premium resources on edge rushers, so yea.
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I think he is good against the run. Don't know that I'd call it dominant. He holds his ground. I guess that's what a dominant run stopping DE is.

I also find it really funny that the guy registered 5 total sacks last year. 4 of them coming against Texas. Against everyone else he is worse than Shemar Stewart.
 
bbgun said:
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Mykel Williams by the way, total pressures in 2024 you may ask? 26

Shemar Stewart? 39

Derek Harmon? 55

Now you tell me who would you draft?
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Mykel Williams by the way, total pressures in 2024 you may ask? 26

Shemar Stewart? 39

Derek Harmon? 55

Now you tell me who would you draft?
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Would be curious to see pressures per snap since I'm fairly certain Williams played significantly less snaps than Stewart and Harmon, and probably most of the top DL prospects.

But like I've been saying for months, Harmon is my top guy on the DL outside of Graham.
 
Simpleton said:
Would be curious to see pressures per snap since I'm fairly certain Williams played significantly less snaps than Stewart and Harmon, and probably most of the top DL prospects.

But like I've been saying for months, Harmon is my top guy on the DL outside of Graham.
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Should be easy to calculate but like most positions less snaps should equal more production on a per snap basis. Just fresh going against tired.

I'll do the math in a bit.
 
Derrick Harmon got pressure on 15.9% of pass rushes.

Mykel Williams was at 10.4%

Shemar Stewart pressured on 12.4%

Those are for 2024. So pretty much Mykel Williams still not good. Which holds pretty true to what I have seen when I watched him.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Derrick Harmon got pressure on 15.9% of pass rushes.

Mykel Williams was at 10.4%

Shemar Stewart pressured on 12.4%

Those are for 2024. So pretty much Mykel Williams still not good. Which holds pretty true to what I have seen when I watched him.
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Plus the injury factor… hard pass in the first
 
ravidubey said:
Plus the injury factor… hard pass in the first
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You want to take a risk on a high upside guy, don't talk to me until at least the second round. And honestly I'd like to start getting base hits in the second as well because the second round risks don't seem worth it. The Sam Williams, Luke Schoonmaker, Kelvin Joseph, Trysten Hill, Jaylon Smith, Randy Gregory's aren't worth it.

I excluded Kneeland despite some sort of already bailing on him because he didn't look risky. Diggs, Connor Williams and Awuzie were at least base hits.
 
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