2025 Draft Chatter Thread

[Chocolate Lab]

I ask again why everyone is so bent on moving Beebe to guard. We just spent a year on training him at center and by all accounts he did very well. Now just when he's ready to go you want to do the same thing with a different player? Why would you do that?

 

[Simpleton]

Mosher is an idiot, they'd almost certainly slot Zabel right in at RG.

 

[Simpleton]

I ask again why everyone is so bent on moving Beebe to guard. We just spent a year on training him at center and by all accounts he did very well. Now just when he's ready to go you want to do the same thing with a different player? Why would you do that?

I think it's mostly just fan speculation.

 

[bbgun]

Just total gut feel here, I think we'd take TMac also. He fits Jerry's high-upside model.

I don't want him. He wouldn't fix our speed issues on offense because he's more of a glider. "But he'll win jump balls!" That's what we said about Bennett and Escobar. Never materialized.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I don't want him. He wouldn't fix our speed issues on offense because he's more of a glider. "But he'll win jump balls!" That's what we said about Bennett and Escobar. Never materialized.

I'm extremely skeptical of him also. In general I don't like big, slow WRs. I think he could be Mike Williams. Tmac supposedly doesn't have the best attitude, either.

But Jerry doesn't think like that. Jerry sees only the upside, another possible Mike Evans.

 

[data]

I don't want him. He wouldn't fix our speed issues on offense because he's more of a glider. "But he'll win jump balls!" That's what we said about Bennett and Escobar. Never materialized.

Rico Gathers

 

[data]

I'm extremely skeptical of him also. In general I don't like big, slow WRs. I think he could be Mike Williams. Tmac supposedly doesn't have the best attitude, either.

But Jerry doesn't think like that. Jerry sees only the upside, another possible Mike Evans.

Jerruh couldn’t bestow #88 unto him, either. Here’s #19, Tmac

 

[bbgun]

Here’s #19, Tmac

Milton has his eye on that

 

[Texas Ace]

We can do whatever as long as we draft Ewers as an obvious heir apparent for Dak.

 

[shoop]

You’re off on your facts a bit. He spent 5 years in college, not 6. He RS a year while competing as a QB. Once he moved to RB, he had 1 injury year, 1 year as RB2 and then 2 years as a starter. With the exception of wasting time at QB, that’s a somewhat normal progression for your typical college back.

What isn’t normal was his production as a starter, his balance and vision to find and hit the hole. And I don’t know what his 40 time is, but his game speed is very good and noticeable on tape. You won’t find a more complete runner in this draft.

Just because he redshirted doesn’t mean he wasn’t there.

He ran a 4.4 which is fast but some scouts say it doesn’t translate. “Lacks top end speed to finish explosive plays” “ability to get to the edge in the run game is hit or miss” “average run power” “can be halted by arm tackles” “needs consistency” “ needs to work on ball security” “liability in pass protection”

I could be wrong, it happens. But we need someone that can pass protect. Our QB isn’t getting more sturdy as time passes. Plus this is at UCF. Not exactly stellar competition. This is someone who I would prefer in the 4th if no one better was there. I’d rather we take someone earlier that will contribute and possibly be a number 1 back. Even while we hope that they run more of a committee approach.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I'm extremely skeptical of him also. In general I don't like big, slow WRs. I think he could be Mike Williams. Tmac supposedly doesn't have the best attitude, either.

But Jerry doesn't think like that. Jerry sees only the upside, another possible Mike Evans.

He isn't slow. He just isn't a burner. His speed looks a lot like Lambs. My only concern is I think he shares a lot of similarities with Lamb.

 

[Cujo]

Don't give RBs a second contract. We should have rode Zeke for 5 years and said thank you for your service. It's not a difficult concept. Which is a huge part of why it's hard to use a first round pick on a RB. You need 10 year cornerstone players and a lot of them are found in the first round. Doesn't mean RB isn't important but the reduced shelf life reduces the value.

Agree on all points.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He isn't slow. He just isn't a burner. His speed looks a lot like Lambs. My only concern is I think he shares a lot of similarities with Lamb.

Lamb has quickness and moves almost like a RB, though.

 

[Rev]

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Lamb has quickness and moves almost like a RB, though.

McMillan is pretty damn good with the ball in his hands. But I agree about Lamb. Watch some McMillan, he does really well once he catches the ball. He actually has some moves.

 

[NoDak]

I'm extremely skeptical of him also. In general I don't like big, slow WRs.

Tet is not slow. He's not a burner like Golden, but certainly is not slow. He ran faster than Lamb at the combine. Faster than Michael Irvin. He can get deep, and can use his size to his advantage.

I flop between him and Golden on who I want with our first pick. I'm leaning Tet right now.

 

[Simpleton]

Yea McMillan isn't slow and there's an argument that he's actually more dynamic than Golden after the catch. There were plays where he made defenders miss in the open field and pulled away that you didn't see as much of from Golden.

He just doesn't have the pure deep speed or the short area quickness and crispness as a route runner that Golden has.

 

[Rev]

Yea McMillan isn't slow and there's an argument that he's actually more dynamic than Golden after the catch. There were plays where he made defenders miss in the open field and pulled away that you didn't see as much of from Golden.

He just doesn't have the pure deep speed or the short area quickness and crispness as a route runner that Golden has.

He may not be slow but the Cowboys lack that top speed threat.

 

[NoDak]

Honestly, I'm good with either Tet or Golden. They both have attributes that this team desperately needs, and will take a lot of pressure off of Lamb. If we walk away with either of them tonight, I'm happy. There are other players who I would also like, that have a good possibility of being there, but with the way the strength of the draft stacks up, coupled with our needs, I think WR is the smart play in the first. There will still be starting caliber guys at DT and RB to be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I highly doubt we'd be lucky enough to have somebody like Egbuka fall to our 2nd. And I don't want to reach for a WR in the 2nd, either.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

He can get deep, and can use his size to his advantage.

This is the interesting debate that goes on in my head. On a deep ball against single coverage, Tet is highly likely to make the catch against the defender. He is that good in those situations. So does stretching a defense mean you have to be stupid fast? Or does it mean that you have to use a safety over the top knowing that a guy is likely to beat you deep. I'd argue that the defense sort of has to respect the deep aspect for McMillan and for Golden but with slightly different reasons. (Golden wins contested catches too and McMillan does beat guys deep with speed but that's not the elite traits for either guy)