2024 NFL Coaches/GMs Firing & Hiring Thread

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Tony D said:
Pete Carroll out in Seattle. Can absolutely see DQ going there. Oh well.
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Yep. Pete will stay on as cheerleader.

Quinn will either take Whitt or Harris. It would probably hurt if Harris goes because our defensive backs would be a little bit lost.
 
boozeman said:
Yep. Pete will stay on as cheerleader.

Quinn will either take Whitt or Harris. It would probably hurt if Harris goes because our defensive backs would be a little bit lost.
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I think I'd be ok with making Whitt DC.
 
Genghis Khan said:
Wink would be a disaster. Apparently he's been wreaking all kinds of havoc in NY and basically defying Daboll's game plans.

I want absolutely nothing to do with that guy.
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Daboll comes off as an asshole and they didn't get along. So what? Wink got along well with enough others to prove to be one of the better guys at his position. I'd rather roll with him than promote someone from within or getting someone who couldn't hack it as a HC.
 
Prodigal_Son said:
Daboll comes off as an asshole and they didn't get along. So what? Wink got along well with enough others to prove to be one of the better guys at his position. I'd rather roll with him than promote someone from within or getting someone who couldn't hack it as a HC.
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This is from a report on the situation via someone transcribing/ summarizing it on Reddit. If even half of this is true I want zero part of this.


"Daboll met with Martindale on Monday and told him there were staff changes coming....Daboll told Martindale he wanted him to stay, but that he was going to fire the Wilkins brothers....Martindale, angered by this news, cursed out Daboll, said his piece, got up, slammed the door and walked out of the building. He notified those close to him that he planned to resign. More than 24 hours later, the Giants still had not heard anything from Martindale.

...There was a feeling in the building that Martindale and Drew Wilkins were creating their own fiefdom within the coaching staff, at times bypassing Daboll and believing they had to answer only to each other and, ultimately, ownership. Daboll is all about collaboration — and this was not that.

Martindale, 60, was extremely popular with his players and his side of the ball, while hardly dominant, consistently performed better than the offense, which is Daboll’s bailiwick. That caused friction, as well.

The Daboll-Martindale relationship grew more strained during and after the 49-17 loss in Dallas in Week 10. With rookie quarterback Tommy DeVito making his first NFL start, Daboll put in a conservative game plan, across the board, surmising that it would take all three phases — offense, defense and special teams — to succeed with a ball-control mindset to have any realistic chance to stay close. Martindale disregarded the plan and stuck with his pressure packages. The results were unsightly....and the Giants allowed a ghastly 640 yards, the second-most yards allowed in franchise history and the most amassed by the Cowboys in any game in their history. Going into halftime in Dallas, with the Giants trailing 28-0, Daboll and Martindale engaged in what appeared to be a heated exchange. Afterward, Daboll said they were discussing “coverages.’’

Daboll privately confronted Martindale, twice, about the [Glazer] report and no explanation was given. Daboll walked into a meeting of the defensive staff and, referring to the report, announced if anyone had a problem with him they should speak up. No one spoke up."
 
Quinn would make a lot of sense for Seattle. I think they will hire him, as New England will do with Vrabel. Both are perfect fits.
 
Prodigal_Son said:
Daboll comes off as an asshole and they didn't get along. So what? Wink got along well with enough others to prove to be one of the better guys at his position. I'd rather roll with him than promote someone from within or getting someone who couldn't hack it as a HC.
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That would be fine if he wasn't undermining the HC and doing whatever the hell he wanted to.

What happens if he doesn't like McCarthy? Is he gonna go rogue here too? Gonna be like T.O. in 2008 and form a little clique?

We don't need that here.
 
Texas Ace said:
That would be fine if he wasn't undermining the HC and doing whatever the hell he wanted to.

What happens if he doesn't like McCarthy? Is he gonna go rogue here too? Gonna be like T.O. in 2008 and form a little clique?

We don't need that here.
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McCarthy doesn't seem like as much of a head-strong asshole as Daboll. Unleashing Parsons in a Martindale blitz-happy attack defense seems like it could be very effective, especially if Dallas is healthy in the secondary with two aggressive CBs in Bland and Diggs.
 
shane said:
McCarthy doesn't seem like as much of a head-strong asshole as Daboll. Unleashing Parsons in a Martindale blitz-happy attack defense seems like it could be very effective, especially if Dallas is healthy in the secondary with two aggressive CBs in Bland and Diggs.
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That's not the point.

What if he disagree philosophically? What if McCarthy wants him to be less aggressive or more aggressive and Wink disagrees?

Is the guy just gonna go and do what he wants because he feels he knows better?
 
Is the guy just gonna go and do what he wants because he feels he knows better?
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Think Wink is all aggression all the time.

He would probably burn out but wouldn't mind him here for a couple years.
 
Texas Ace said:
That would be fine if he wasn't undermining the HC and doing whatever the hell he wanted to.

What happens if he doesn't like McCarthy? Is he gonna go rogue here too? Gonna be like T.O. in 2008 and form a little clique?

We don't need that here.
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Exactly. And for the amount of times McCarthy emphasizes complementary football, I'm guessing a coach on one side of the ball going rogue would be a huge problem.
 
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