2023 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

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p1_ said:
I did, before they beat us. And then seeing how they played SF far better than us.
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Fair enough but I think it's hard to compare circumstances.

The Broncos beat the Bears. The Bears beat the Redskins. The Redskins beat the Broncos.

None of it means anything in isolation. You have to take things in totality.
 


Just looking at it right now, we did have a delicate house of cards built at LBer.

Overshown was another "mourning" injury. We did little to address that.
 
Genghis Khan said:
That's actually not true.

Kurt Warner for example was pretty scathing even though he was trying not to be.

And Warner "showed his work" way more than Owning ever did.

God, I can't stand media types like Owning that think they know more because they look at film or whatever.

im sorry but if you don't break down his negative plays and explain either why it's not his fault or why we should excuse it or why it shouldn't mean that he's a worse QB than he's given credit for, you're not "showing your work", you're presenting a narrative and an incomplete picture.

Get bent Owning.
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There was another analysis of that same 49er game done by Derek Carr. He lays some of the blame on Moore's shitful play design, but he's also pretty critical of Dak's progressions and decision-making. Dak does not come off looking like a very good QB.
 
son of deadrise said:
There was another analysis of that same 49er game done by Derek Carr. He lays some of the blame on Moore's shitful play design, but he's also pretty critical of Dak's progressions and decision-making. Dak does not come off looking like a very good QB.
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Dak's inability to read defenses and go through progressions couldn't have been displayed any better than it was in Kurt Warner's vid after that 49er playoff loss in 2021.

Even when there was somewhere to throw the ball, he was usually very late on the throw.
 
boozeman said:


Just looking at it right now, we did have a delicate house of cards built at LBer.

Overshown was another "mourning" injury. We did little to address that.
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Death by a thousand cuts. A few other organizations might be able to something to stop the bleeding -- trades, FAs, their own depth, whatever. Not this outfit. Get ready add season #28 to the list.
 
QB1 is already in physical decline at 30. I remember his deep passes with some zip on them when he was younger. Now his deep throws look like Jason Garret rainbows.
 
Texas Ace said:
None of us know either.

All we can say is what it looks like and that is an overly conservative offense designed to keep the QB from fucking us over and making mistakes.

Sadly, no such offense exists as our QB is toast.
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It is conservative but also unimaginative. It is crap.
 


It would be a first and more to get Surtain. Dumb suggestion.
 
Texas Ace said:
None of us know either.

All we can say is what it looks like and that is an overly conservative offense designed to keep the QB from fucking us over and making mistakes.

Sadly, no such offense exists as our QB is toast.
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And still the turnovers .
 
Beyond dumb on Surtain. Ridiculous.

Great insight from Broaddus though that the scouts liked a top ten pick and Jerry and Payton are buds. Invaluable inside info.
 
You have to wonder what's going through Jerry's mind. He fired his favorite son coach, hired another. Fired a favorite son OC, made McCarthy the OC. Signed his QB to a big contract.

Now it's obvious that both the coach and the QB suck. What's next? Trading for Surtain sure as hell isn't the answer.
 
son of deadrise said:
You have to wonder what's going through Jerry's mind. He fired his favorite son coach, hired another. Fired a favorite son OC, made McCarthy the OC. Signed his QB to a big contract.

Now it's obvious that both the coach and the QB suck. What's next? Trading for Surtain sure as hell isn't the answer.
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Saying the coach sucks is hyperbole.

McCarthy has been great as a HC.

He hasn't been very impressive as a playcaller, but to be fair, it's only been 5 games and he is working with a dumbass at QB.

With that being said, the offense has also been very unimaginative and if this is how it goes all season, then he absolutely needs to go outside the organization for an OC and give the reigns to said OC.
 
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