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I'm not positive, but running left throwing back across your body off a one-legged bunny hop may not be on the coaching tape.

Yes, I know it was Brown's fault... but still.
 
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Chocolate Lab said:
I'm not positive, but running left throwing back across your body off a one-legged bunny hop may not be on the coaching tape.

Yes, I know it was still Brown's fault... but still.
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It's pretty ill-advised, and some of the picks he had were due to simple over aggressiveness (Packers red zone, Bears right before the half, Jaguars inside our own 20) and trying to fit it in to a tight window, but in this particular case he hit Brown pretty comfortably in the numbers and it's a catch a legitimate starting WR makes 90% of the time.

And even if it ends up being dropped by said legitimate WR, it would almost never bounce straight up in the air like it did with old stone hands Brown.
 
Simpleton said:
It's pretty ill-advised, and some of the picks he had were due to simple over aggressiveness (Packers red zone, Bears right before the half, Jaguars inside our own 20) and trying to fit it in to a tight window, but in this particular case he hit Brown pretty comfortably in the numbers and it's a catch a legitimate starting WR makes 90% of the time.

And even if it ends up being dropped it wouldn't bounce straight up in the air like it did with old stone hands Brown.
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Yep, terrible luck. Not as bad as the one off Witten's foot, but still really unlucky.

Still not a throw you want to make very often.

This is where you hope the WCO type plays get someone open right off the snap for an easier 5 yard gain this year.
 
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Simpleton said:
It's pretty ill-advised, and some of the picks he had were due to simple over aggressiveness (Packers red zone, Bears right before the half, Jaguars inside our own 20) and trying to fit it in to a tight window, but in this particular case he hit Brown pretty comfortably in the numbers and it's a catch a legitimate starting WR makes 90% of the time.

And even if it ends up being dropped by said legitimate WR, it would almost never bounce straight up in the air like it did with old stone hands Brown.
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Yeah , you don’t create a tip drill opportunity.
 
It's the overcorrect that happens when they go too far one way.
 
Maybe also that there are three or four RBs on each team and only one placekicker.
 
Rev said:
It's the overcorrect that happens when they go too far one way.
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Exactly. It's basic supply and demand. Just exactly the same way it works in pretty much every other industry. When there are a lot of people that can do a job, the job becomes less lucrative.
 
roughneck266 said:
Exactly. It's basic supply and demand. Just exactly the same way it works in pretty much every other industry. When there are a lot of people that can do a job, the job becomes less lucrative.
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And yet, we will never see a glut of talent at QB.
 
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It’s funny, but a lot is expected of QB’s these days when you compare with greats from decades past.

Pass rushers are still as effective as they were back then, even if they can’t tee off on QB’s the way they used to.

QB’s and WRs are simply better than they used to be all those decades ago.

Back then when you saw a deep pass, you thought maybe 1 out of five might get caught, and just as likely by the other team. Nowadays deep shots are more like 1 out of 2 or 3, and we’re actually talking about ball placement relative to the WR.
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If the WRs of the 70s/80s/90s had the gloves that the WRs today use... we're looking at a completely different picture. I think it's ironic that the league outlawed "stick-m, but allows gloves that are way more "effective".
 
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And yet, we will never see a glut of talent at QB.
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I think that is at least partly because of the intelligence required, alongside the physical abilities. There is an obvious tiered system here. If the second coming of Barry Sanders comes along, you have to pay that guy. That is something you would do for a generational talent at any position for the most part though.
 
P_T said:
If the WRs of the 70s/80s/90s had the gloves that the WRs today use... we're looking at a completely different picture. I think it's ironic that the league outlawed "stick-m, but allows gloves that are way more "effective".
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Is the glove technology THAT advanced? I would think gloves might be hard to play with .
 
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Is the glove technology THAT advanced? I would think gloves might be hard to play with .
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They make a massive difference, when I played flag football they made me at least like 25% more effective catching the ball. That's obviously very anecdotal but they made a clear and obvious difference.
 
roughneck266 said:
I think that is at least partly because of the intelligence required, alongside the physical abilities. There is an obvious tiered system here. If the second coming of Barry Sanders comes along, you have to pay that guy. That is something you would do for a generational talent at any position for the most part though.
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I was fooled by 2016 to 2018 Zeke into thinking he might be one.
 
p1_ said:
I was fooled by 2016 to 2018 Zeke into thinking he might be one.
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I was too. But the fall off with him was fairly dramatic to me. He played pretty damned well through his rookie contract, but it sure didn't look the same after the money came.
 
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