2017 Mock Drafts

mschmidt64 said:
Derek Barnett there please.
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Yeah no kidding. You can write him down as a pet cat of mine already. In the bowl game against Nebraska, they literally couldn't pass the ball without Barnett impacting the play. The guy is a beast.
 
Jones is actually a very good prospect, one I'd be fine with if he's the BPA and there weren't any options along the DL, but certainly not if Barnett was available.
 
Simpleton said:
Jones is actually a very good prospect, one I'd be fine with if he's the BPA and there weren't any options along the DL, but certainly not if Barnett was available.
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Yeah I don't mean anything against Jones. I really don't know much about him at this point. He could be an excellent corner prospect. But I really don't want him in the late first. If we are getting a corner I want it to be someone that really stands out to me as an elite talent. And frankly those guys rarely last into the late twenties of the draft.

Suddenly resigning Carr looks a lot better to me.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Yeah I don't mean anything against Jones. I really don't know much about him at this point. He could be an excellent corner prospect. But I really don't want him in the late first. If we are getting a corner I want it to be someone that really stands out to me as an elite talent. And frankly those guys rarely last into the late twenties of the draft.

Suddenly resigning Carr looks a lot better to me.
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Yes, yes, now you see.

Carr/Scandrick/Brown as our top 3, Jones comes down in some passing situations and then maybe we spend a mid-round pick on another CB for depth. I'd rather take a safety at 29 assuming we don't re-sign Church and Wilcox.
 
Simpleton said:
Yes, yes, now you see.

Carr/Scandrick/Brown as our top 3, Jones comes down in some passing situations and then maybe we spend a mid-round pick on another CB for depth. I'd rather take a safety at 29 assuming we don't re-sign Church and Wilcox.
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I'd much prefer a FS. And if Hooker fell to us I'd be all in. Probably not over Barnett but I really like Barnett. Hooker is exactly what we need in the secondary. Size, speed and elite instincts on getting the ball and scoring when he does. Might be my favorite safety in this draft. Actually let me change that, he is my favorite safety in this class. To me he looks like he has Sean Taylor type ability. For our needs, he is better then Peppers or Adams.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I'd much prefer a FS. And if Hooker fell to us I'd be all in. Probably not over Barnett but I really like Barnett. Hooker is exactly what we need in the secondary. Size, speed and elite instincts on getting the ball and scoring when he does. Might be my favorite safety in this draft. Actually let me change that, he is my favorite safety in this class. To me he looks like he has Sean Taylor type ability. For our needs, he is better then Peppers or Adams.
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There's about as much a chance of Hooker falling to us as there is of Garrett, although if by some miracle of miracles he did I'd take him over Barnett. The best we could do at safety at 28 is probably a LB/SS hybrid like Peppers or Baker who could make plays within 10 yards of the LOS in passing situations, of course we'd still need a deep safety like Wilcox in that situation.
 
Simpleton said:
There's about as much a chance of Hooker falling to us as there is of Garrett, although if by some miracle of miracles he did I'd take him over Barnett. The best we could do at safety at 28 is probably a LB/SS hybrid like Peppers or Baker who could make plays within 10 yards of the LOS in passing situations, of course we'd still need a deep safety like Wilcox in that situation.
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Yeah, I think the chances are poor. We may have a shot at Barnett simply because he doesn't really fit in a 3-4 defense and there are a lot of pass rushers in this draft. Plus he doesn't have the stereotypical long frame. He isn't a 6'5" pass rusher with long arms. Still I'm a huge fan of Barnett. That dude walked into Tenn as a freshman and dominated. 10 sacks and 20.5 tfls as a freshman in the SEC is insane. And there was never really a drop off with the guy either. As a sophomore he came in and had 10 sacks again with 12.5 tfls. As a Junior he stepped it up with 13 sacks. And then declared for the NFL draft.

He has the size to hold up as a run defender but has proven to be unstoppable as a pass rusher. I'm all in on this kid if he falls to our pick.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Yeah, I think the chances are poor. We may have a shot at Barnett simply because he doesn't really fit in a 3-4 defense and there are a lot of pass rushers in this draft. Plus he doesn't have the stereotypical long frame. He isn't a 6'5" pass rusher with long arms. Still I'm a huge fan of Barnett. That dude walked into Tenn as a freshman and dominated. 10 sacks and 20.5 tfls as a freshman in the SEC is insane. And there was never really a drop off with the guy either. As a sophomore he came in and had 10 sacks again with 12.5 tfls. As a Junior he stepped it up with 13 sacks. And then declared for the NFL draft.

He has the size to hold up as a run defender but has proven to be unstoppable as a pass rusher. I'm all in on this kid if he falls to our pick.
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I wouldn't be shocked if Barnett is there because he probably won't test well. He's not an elite athlete, he isn't particularly explosive or quick twitch, his frame isn't impressive, his change of direction is somewhat limited and like you say, he isn't a 3-4 fit.

I'd take him without a second thought for sure though because he just knows how to get to the QB. Great hands, relatively refined pass-rush moves, he is able to bend/flatten to the QB, good power and he closes quick on the QB once he has an angle.
 
Deuce said:
F no. He's not some once in a lifetime pass rusher and that's a hell of a lot to give up for anything less.
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I think Garrett is a generational pass rusher, but I still would not give all of that up.
 
Simpleton said:
I wouldn't be shocked if Barnett is there because he probably won't test well. He's not an elite athlete, he isn't particularly explosive or quick twitch, his frame isn't impressive, his change of direction is somewhat limited and like you say, he isn't a 3-4 fit.

I'd take him without a second thought for sure though because he just knows how to get to the QB. Great hands, relatively refined pass-rush moves, he is able to bend/flatten to the QB, good power and he closes quick on the QB once he has an angle.
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Yeah I expect him to time in the 4.7's. And at 6'3" 270 pounds. None of that really gets an NFL team excited. But when you watch the guy play he goes 100 miles per hour at all times. He will beat you around the corner, he will bull rush you, he will spin inside. I mean the guy knows how to get to the QB. And that low center of gravity actually gives him an advantage bending the corner against OT's. It's just all very natural to him. It's why he was able to come in as a true freshman and dominate like that.
 
Kiper - 1/19


1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett DE Texas A&M
2. San Francisco - Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina
3. Chicago - Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
4. Jacksonville - Jamal Adams S LSU
5. Tennessee - Mike Williams WR Clemson
6. N.Y. Jets - Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio St.
7. San Diego - Cam Robinson T Alabama
8. Carolina - Leonard Fournette RB LSU
9. Cincinnati - Solomon Thomas DE Stanford
10. Buffalo - Deshaun Watson QB Clemson
11. New Orleans - Reuben Foster ILB Alabama
12. Cleveland (Philadelphia) - Dalvin Cook RB Florida St.
13. Arizona - Teez Tabor CB Florida
14. Philadelphia (Minnesota) Quincy Wilson CB Florida
15. Indianapolis - Takkarist McKinley OLB UCLA
16. Baltimore - Jabrill Peppers S Michigan
17. Washington - Malik Hooker S Ohio St.
18. Tennessee - Marlon Humphrey CB Alabama
19. Tampa Bay - Taco Charlton DE Michigan
20. Denver - Garett Bolles T Utah
21. Detroit - Tim Williams OLB Alabama
22. Miami - Jarrad Davis LB Florida
23. N.Y. Giants - Ryan Ramczyk T Wisconsin
24. Oakland - Malik McDowell DT Michigan St.
25. Houston - Budda Baker S Washington
26. Seattle - Cordea Tankersley CB Clemson
27. Kansas City - Corey Davis WR Western Michigan

28. Dallas - Sidney Jones CB Washington
Jones, a three-year starter for the Huskies, is the sixth corner off the board. At 6-1, 170, he's agile and fast with nice ball skills. He had nine interceptions in his career. Dallas has a glaring need at defensive end, but don't count out a corner here. Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne are free agents.

29. Green Bay - Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
30. Pittsburgh - Charles Harris OLB Missouri
31. Atlanta - Derek Barnett DE Tennessee
32. New England - O.J. Howard TE Alabama
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I'd much prefer a FS. And if Hooker fell to us I'd be all in. Probably not over Barnett but I really like Barnett. Hooker is exactly what we need in the secondary. Size, speed and elite instincts on getting the ball and scoring when he does. Might be my favorite safety in this draft. Actually let me change that, he is my favorite safety in this class. To me he looks like he has Sean Taylor type ability. For our needs, he is better then Peppers or Adams.
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That would be a tough choice. A true ballhawking FS would be tough to pass up especially since they don't really come around very often.

I'd personally be fine with either selection if available at 28.
 
I'm wondering if Solomon Thomas falls to the end of the 1st. If so, I wouldn't mind him landing here at all.
 
Joe Fan said:
I'm wondering if Solomon Thomas falls to the end of the 1st. If so, I wouldn't mind him landing here at all.
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Nope. Some mocks have him in the top 10. He is rising, not falling.

Anyone hoping for Hooker, Thomas etc., forget it.
 
boozeman said:
Nope. Some mocks have him in the top 10. He is rising, not falling.

Anyone hoping for Hooker, Thomas etc., forget it.
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For now. There is always so much jostling after the All-Star Bowls and Combine some of the guys in the middle of the draft with fall to us. I'll try not to get my heart set on any one until at least all that is over.
 
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