Abortion... yeah or nah?



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Why aren't they arresting these fucks? Oh wait nevermind I know why :/
 
boozeman said:
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From the article:

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Translate that how you will.
 
Iamtdg said:
From the article:

According to the company's 2021 Impact Report, Tesla began providing an "expanded Safety Net program and health insurance offering" last year, which includes "travel and lodging support for those who may need to seek healthcare services that are unavailable in their home state."

Translate that how you will.
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Oh what a devil...

This shit is ridiculous.
 
boozeman said:
It is pushing an Evangelical principle to the extreme.

I am going to keep it simple. Forcing a rape or incest victim to have that child is just wrong.
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That makes up less than 1.5% of abortions. I think most people agree that these should not be restricted.
 
Cujo said:
That makes up less than 1.5% of abortions. I think most people agree that these should not be restricted.
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I saw a graph the other day that said 93% of abortions are elective. That is insane and has got to be fixed.
 
 
Iamtdg said:
I saw a graph the other day that said 93% of abortions are elective. That is insane and has got to be fixed.
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I agree with that. I was just saying that there are times, though they represent the extreme minority, I feel abortions are justified.
 
Cujo said:
I agree with that. I was just saying that there are times, though they represent the extreme minority, I feel abortions are justified.
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What do you mean by not restricted? Because product of rape or not if a baby is old enough to survive outside of the womb I absolutely do not think the child should be terminated. Am I crazy for thinking that? I still think there is a line you don't cross before the baby is born.

Of course there are other issues too. Such as how do you prove it's a product of rape?

But regardless let the states decide. I'm not one that believes in an outright ban on any abortions after someone has sex.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
What do you mean by not restricted? Because product of rape or not if a baby is old enough to survive outside of the womb I absolutely do not think the child should be terminated. Am I crazy for thinking that? I still think there is a line you don't cross before the baby is born.

Of course there are other issues too. Such as how do you prove it's a product of rape?

But regardless let the states decide. I'm not one that believes in an outright ban on any abortions after someone has sex.
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Yep, I'm not an absolutist and could probably compromise if the left would be reasonable with a 12 week ban like most European countries, but this bs up until birth(and sometimes afterward like Northam and Newsome have pushed) is just fucking evil
 
No way that's constitutional and Manchin (and probably others) wouldn't vote for that anyway.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
What do you mean by not restricted? Because product of rape or not if a baby is old enough to survive outside of the womb I absolutely do not think the child should be terminated. Am I crazy for thinking that? I still think there is a line you don't cross before the baby is born.

Of course there are other issues too. Such as how do you prove it's a product of rape?

But regardless let the states decide. I'm not one that believes in an outright ban on any abortions after someone has sex.
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No, I don't agree with late term abortions. I think 12-14 weeks is plenty and yeah I'm referring to rape and incest. Yeah, they could lie, I guess. I don't have a solution for that but if they were raped, I do not think they should forced to carry it to term. This becomes a very nuanced argument no matter what side you're on. Suffice to say, I am not pro choice.
 
The messaging could be so much better from the right currently on this shit.
 
Iamtdg said:
I saw a graph the other day that said 93% of abortions are elective. That is insane and has got to be fixed.
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I guess my English is failing me, you mean 7% of abortions are forced? Or what would be the opposite of elective here?
 
I'm guessing only 7% are done because the mother's health was in jeopardy.
 
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