2026 Season | Week 9 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Colts | 11/08/2026

Texas Ace said:
What a monster.

Great great player.
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I could make the argument that he's having a season as good or better than anything Micah ever did, people just aren't recognizing it because the defense has been so putrid overall and the team is just a complete joke under Schottenheimer.

But if you drop this year's Quinnen into our 2021-23 teams as a replacement for Micah, he's 1st team All Pro every year and probably wins a DPoY.

DT's almost never put up gaudy TFL numbers because it's easier for edge rushers to put up those types of stats given how the game is played. They almost never lead the league in TFL's, yet Quinnen is tied for the top right now at 14.

The most single season TFL's by a DT in the last 10-15 years was Aaron Donald at 25, Quinnen is on pace for roughly that many if not slightly more. Jeffery Simmons had 17 last year when everyone was blowing their load for him as the best DT in the league. In general DT's almost never reach 20 TFL's.

And these aren't just random TFL's on 2nd and 6 in the second quarter, yesterday they were two of the biggest plays of the game with the forced fumble in the 4th and then a TFL on the last Colts drive that essentially ended the drive, forced them into a FG and didn't allow them to run down the clock.

I could easily make the argument that he's the best DT in the league right now and one of the best overall defensive players, it's just flying under the radar because we have a moron of a HC who nobody would've ever hired except for the toxic sociopath who owns this team.
 
Simpleton said:
I could make the argument that he's having a season as good or better than anything Micah ever did, people just aren't recognizing it because the defense has been so putrid overall and the team is just a complete joke under Schottenheimer.

But if you drop this year's Quinnen into our 2021-23 teams as a replacement for Micah, he's 1st team All Pro every year and probably wins a DPoY.

DT's almost never put up gaudy TFL numbers because it's easier for edge rushers to put up those types of stats given how the game is played. They almost never lead the league in TFL's, yet Quinnen is tied for the top right now at 14.

The most single season TFL's by a DT in the last 10-15 years was Aaron Donald at 25, Quinnen is on pace for roughly that many if not slightly more. Jeffery Simmons had 17 last year when everyone was blowing their load for him as the best DT in the league. In general DT's almost never reach 20 TFL's.

And these aren't just random TFL's on 2nd and 6 in the second quarter, yesterday they were two of the biggest plays of the game with the forced fumble in the 4th and then a TFL on the last Colts drive that essentially ended the drive, forced them into a FG and didn't allow them to run down the clock.

I could easily make the argument that he's the best DT in the league right now and one of the best overall defensive players, it's just flying under the radar because we have a moron of a HC who nobody would've ever hired except for the toxic sociopath who owns this team.
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because we have a moron of a HC who nobody would've ever hired except for the toxic sociopath who owns this team. :lol
 
Texas Ace said:
What a fucking loser.
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Is there any wonder that this team eats the cheese after they beat some shitty team? It's a level of dishonesty to the players. You shouldn't be acting like you just accomplished something every time you win a fucking game. You should be pissed off that it took some miracle throw to Flo to best a team you by far outplayed the entire game.

But no, we must celebrate because our head coach knows nothing but sunshine and rainbows. Nice guy, but he isn't cut out for being an NFL coach. He has a losers mentality.
 
I almost quoted that Simp line, too. Near poetry. :lol

But yeah, DTs just don't get the same attention for their sacks and TFLs because edges are always in space, more or less one on one with a tackle, and it's just cleaner and prettier looking. But Quinnen makes the plays, and also does the dirty work, and is a great leader in the locker room, unlike Micah.

I don't care enough to look closely, but I wonder if Pettine has helped changed things so he's getting more freedom to make plays instead of being stuck in this 1.5 gap thing. Or maybe he's just healthier from when he was obviously banged up those first few games.
 
Simpleton said:
I don't think this is a Schottenheimer thing, it's a Jerry/organizational thing that a shitty HC like Schottenheimer makes worse.
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I think it's both, Schottenheimer and his attitude is just a symptom of Jerry and the organization. You hired the sunshine and rainbows guy because that's what makes you happy. You hired the likable guy because you think that's what makes for good PR. The head coach crying and handing out tissues.

Maybe I'm out of touch with reality but I remember when I played football if we barely beat a team we were way better than we were all pissed off after the game. We weren't dancing and celebrating like a bunch of fools. And if someone did, our coach would have chewed their ass out. I have no doubt that John Harbaugh wouldn't be handing out game balls to everyone after that game and screaming like a fool. Is there any world that this team takes this almost loss and goes, we are better than that? No, they will look at it and go, hey we won, that's all that matters!!!!! Let's go do it again next week!
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I think it's both, Schottenheimer and his attitude is just a symptom of Jerry and the organization. You hired the sunshine and rainbows guy because that's what makes you happy. You hired the likable guy because you think that's what makes for good PR. The head coach crying and handing out tissues.

Maybe I'm out of touch with reality but I remember when I played football if we barely beat a team we were way better than we were all pissed off after the game. We weren't dancing and celebrating like a bunch of fools. And if someone did, our coach would have chewed their ass out. I have no doubt that John Harbaugh wouldn't be handing out game balls to everyone after that game and screaming like a fool. Is there any world that this team takes this almost loss and goes, we are better than that? No, they will look at it and go, hey we won, that's all that matters!!!!! Let's go do it again next week!
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What would Harbaugh or even better Parcells have done if Overshown ran off the bench in street clothes to celebrate a turnover? What a shitshow.
 
bbgun said:
DJ continues to be our bitch

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Wish we could play that turd every week. Unfortunately we don't get to. And Purdy will dice this defense up like it's nothing.

It's funny, you can see how great defenses marry the pass rush with the secondary. We don't do it. Yesterday James came clean pressuring the QB up the gut. Guys are standing back in zone. They should be breaking on offensive players basically as soon as James comes through clean.

Instead DBs aren't doing anything until the ball is caught and then they suddenly break to make the tackle. It's zone coverage, your eyes should be on the QB. You know the ball is coming out quick. And instead you're standing around covering no one.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
Wish we could play that turd every week. Unfortunately we don't get to. And Purdy will dice this defense up like it's nothing.

It's funny, you can see how great defenses marry the pass rush with the secondary. We don't do it. Yesterday James came clean pressuring the QB up the gut. Guys are standing back in zone. They should be breaking on offensive players basically as soon as James comes through clean.

Instead DBs aren't doing anything until the ball is caught and then they suddenly break to make the tackle. It's zone coverage, your eyes should be on the QB. You know the ball is coming out quick. And instead you're standing around covering no one.
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I see it happen throughout the league too, though moreso with us. Players standing in an area on the field like there’s one of those colored zone circles on Madden. It’s frustrating. I don’t know how or if you can teach some of these guys to have awareness beyond their zone but it kills the flow of the defense.
 
Stars said:
I see it happen throughout the league too, though moreso with us. Players standing in an area on the field like there’s one of those colored zone circles on Madden. It’s frustrating. I don’t know how or if you can teach some of these guys to have awareness beyond their zone but it kills the flow of the defense.
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Yeah I think it's a combination of instincts and guys just not being confident in what they are supposed to do. Like they aren't really watching the QB because they aren't confident in what they are doing. But when the ball is coming out you should be breaking to cover someone before the ball even comes out. Instead guys stand and wait.
 
dpf1123 said:
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How do you see the D line stacked and not adjust your route? Dak is going to be on the ground by the time, you get 20 yards downfield
 
Cujo said:
How do you see the D line stacked and not adjust your route? Dak is going to be on the ground by the time, you get 20 yards downfield
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Not to mention that's the easiest pitch and catch if you run anything in breaking. Like not even a crossing route? Sometimes I swear the Cowboys run the offense I did in Madden when I was 10.
 
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