Prospects Dallas Has Shown Interest In - 2026

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Cowboysrock55 said:
You have to get ahead of the curve and the way to do that is free agency.
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But, we don't have that. So, because of our impotence in FA we do have to draft for immediate need. It's the box these yahoos have put us in. I'm not saying to reach, but we need almost immediate impact from the draft at this stage.
 
Cotton said:
But, we don't have that. So, because of our impotence in FA we do have to draft for immediate need. It's the box these yahoos have put us in. I'm not saying to reach, but we need almost immediate impact from the draft at this stage.
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Well, here is to hoping Jerry somehow turned over a new leaf. But odds are he is just spinning bullshit with his "bust the budget" claims.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
The only real answer on defense is coaching (which I think we fixed) and free agency.

The draft is important but the draft isn't really about filling immediate holes. The draft is about long term. A year or two from now you want the players you draft to be the core of the team. Granted first round picks will play and a couple will be stars as rookies. But if you're drafting to plug holes you'll always be playing catchup. You have to get ahead of the curve and the way to do that is free agency.

But I get it, free agency has been shit for this team. And even when we nail it in free agency on a player (Jevonte) its a one year deal and we are back to trying to sign the guy again the following year.

Also I'm not all about BPA, especially in the first. I've always said if BPA is the wrong position you get on the phone to trade down. Trading up or down is sort of the equalizer in the BPA equation. You don't have to just stay put and pick guys as they come to you.
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And the be clear, I'm not just saying we should be filling holes, I agree the draft should be for long term fixes and we should be looking to do that.

But the defense is so bad we really need to load up on it. We're in a unique position right now because not only is our defense this bad, but our offense is almost the exact opposite.

As an example of how I'm looking at this, if we for example sign Dean at LB and Thompson at S in free agency, and if come draft time Downs and / or Styles is sitting there at 12 I'd still draft one of them despite not having an immediate need necessarily at those positions anymore.

We just really have to load up on defense. It would make a significant impact for both this season and the next several years.

All that said the original discussion was about what we should do in the fourth round. All I'm saying is that I still have that same mentality in the fourth that I'd have in the first.

If we trade down in the first and pick up day two picks then I might change how I look at the 4th.

But as it stands right now, a shiny new 4th round OT who maybe should have gone a round or so higher still wouldn't have the same impact as say a LB/S/CB/Edge who I think would be a good player but maybe isn't quite the prospect the OT is.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
In the first I think that's a safe assumption. By the fourth or fifth round, I don't think it is any longer. Like I said there is too much variation from one teams board to another. There isn't nearly as much variation when talking about the first 10-15 pick in the draft. But the deeper you get in the draft the more variation there is. All I'm saying is by the fourth round, I'm taking BPA.

Sure you may have 2 guys left with third round grades. One defense and one offense. If they were closely ranked in the third round, you take the defensive guy.

And no I don't trust any NFL team to have their rankings that accurate. Which is why on day three when your odds of finding a starting caliber player are slim already, why would you be drafting for need over just getting the best player?
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Yeah, I agree. In later rounds, just stick to your board and get the best value regardless of position. 1-3, like Boberts used to say, it's where need and value intersect.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
In the first I think that's a safe assumption. By the fourth or fifth round, I don't think it is any longer. Like I said there is too much variation from one teams board to another. There isn't nearly as much variation when talking about the first 10-15 pick in the draft. But the deeper you get in the draft the more variation there is. All I'm saying is by the fourth round, I'm taking BPA.

Sure you may have 2 guys left with third round grades. One defense and one offense. If they were closely ranked in the third round, you take the defensive guy.

And no I don't trust any NFL team to have their rankings that accurate. Which is why on day three when your odds of finding a starting caliber player are slim already, why would you be drafting for need over just getting the best player?
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I've heard precise cross-position stack rankings happen through the top few rounds at most for most teams before shifting to position clusters organized by grade and "round value".

So you have less frame of reference for BPA between your 10th graded CB vs 10th graded OT. Parcells thought after the 4th round potential immediate impact to special teams also plays a factor.

Of course you're on the lookout for anyone who falls, but you typically don't have a precise player 143 vs 144 across all positions like you would in round 1 or 2.
 
ravidubey said:
4th round potential immediate impact to special teams also plays a factor.
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I hate this but it's true. Mostly because your fourth/fifth receiver has to be able to play special teams. If they can't it's hard to fit them on the roster. So you can't draft the 160 pound receiver in the fifth because he isn't going to start and isn't big enough to play special teams

Same for most positions.

But I also hate taking a less talented position player because he is "better at special teams." This drives me nuts, I want to find guys with positional value and will figure out the tiny impacts these guys will have on special teams.
 
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This is a really dumb take. First of all teams go to all kinds of pro days. Second of all just because you don't think Bailey will be available at 12 doesn't mean you shouldn't do your homework on the guy.

And finally that Tech defense was stacked with talent. They have a number of guys in this draft. Maybe it's Height he wanted to see and talk to. Maybe it's Rodriguez. Maybe it's Lee Hunter. Or it could still be Bailey.

Anyway, really talented team is going to draw in head coaches to watch their workouts. Especially a nearby university.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
This is a really dumb take. First of all teams go to all kinds of pro days. Second of all just because you don't think Bailey will be available at 12 doesn't mean you shouldn't do your homework on the guy.

And finally that Tech defense was stacked with talent. They have a number of guys in this draft. Maybe it's Height he wanted to see and talk to. Maybe it's Rodriguez. Maybe it's Lee Hunter. Or it could still be Bailey.

Anyway, really talented team is going to draw in head coaches to watch their workouts. Especially a nearby university.
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Maybe he wanted to see that NDSU Bison phenom.
 
Hyphen!!!
 
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