McCarthy Gone - Now the search is on - Schottenheimer Hired

boozeman said:
Why would he want to go to Dallas?

Zero relationship.

The Joneses do not have any social networks in the league and probably have not had strong ones since Al Davis died.
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If he was offered the OC job here I bet he'd take it, and I'd be willing to roll the dice on that, all things considered.
 
  • Zimmer as HC or threatens retirement, maybe entice him to stay as DC
  • Schottenheimer as HC, OC for new HC or none of the above
  • KM as HC
  • Deion Sanders as HC
  • Witten maybe TE coach/coach-in-waiting
All the possible configurations with none of the candidates having influence over the other.

Is the plan to gather everyone in a room, cut a cake and have a position reveal party?
 
data said:
  • Zimmer as HC or threatens retirement, maybe entice him to stay as DC
  • Schottenheimer as HC, OC for new HC or none of the above
  • KM as HC
  • Deion Sanders as HC
  • Witten maybe TE coach/coach-in-waiting
All the possible configurations with none of the candidates having influence over the other.

Is the plan to gather everyone in a room, cut a cake and have a position reveal party?
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Yep. It's nonsensical.
 
boozeman said:
If anything, it is better than Moore.

This chatter about Prescott’s “comfort” bothers me a lot.
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Fuck it give me Jason Witten. Fuck Moore and kingsbury.. this team can’t get any worse. At least I like witten. Kellen Moore hiring will have me leave football for good. That would be the nail in the coffin. Jerry ain’t hiring a big time head coach to take his glory so I would take witten and say fuck it. we still have Dak so we still ain’t doing shit till his three years is up
 
Genghis Khan said:
Which is a terrible idea. So they're creating an environment where the HC's assistant is more loyal to the owner than the HC, and on top of that might be resentful that his younger, less experienced boss got the job he himself interviewed for instead of him.
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Sounds like Jerry's dream, though.

I say again, it looks to me like Jerry let Stephen talk him into Mike. At least that hire made sense: he had a good resume, had won a Super Bowl, etc. He was even an outsider with no connection to this place.

Now it looks like Jerry taking control again and we're back to the Garrett days where familiarity and loyalty to Jerry trumps everything. Who cares how good a coach the guy actually is.

Good times.
 
Fwiw, that's Shan Shariff in the blue doing most of the talking, RJ in the red. But yeah, good to see this gaining momentum. Jerry can't fire them all.

Will it make any difference, we know it won't. But still, any heat he gets is a plus.
 
Except for the relative, to most people, huge paycheck, why would any self respecting coach want this job? Everyone knows by now your nuts are chopped off when you are hired. Also this is one of the most stagnant franchises in NFL history. Those fucking trophies are so old they are irrelevant. Like the championships of those ancient Browns and Lions teams of the past. This organization is comparable to the old Bungles or any other joke franchise of NFL history you can think of.
 
Bill Shatner said:
Except for the relative, to most people, huge paycheck, why would any self respecting coach want this job? Everyone knows by now your nuts are chopped off when you are hired. Also this is one of the most stagnant franchises in NFL history. Those fucking trophies are so old they are irrelevant. Like the championships of those ancient Browns and Lions teams of the past. This organization is comparable to the old Bungles or any other joke franchise of NFL history you can think of.
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That's a question I've been asking for a long time.

It's not like it helps your career at all.

It's like you said, it's no secret why you're getting job, right? You're a shit coach who the family feels will let them keep running things the way that they like, so it's not like you can justify taking the job for the experience or whatever because it never leads to anything.

Dave Campo nor Jason Garrett ever received another HC offer from ANYWHERE.

And my guess is that whichever of these awful candidates they hire next will end up with the same fate.

So again, why the hell would anyone why has aspirations in cushion coaching ever want to be the HC here?
 
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Bill Shatner said:
Except for the relative, to most people, huge paycheck, why would any self respecting coach want this job? Everyone knows by now your nuts are chopped off when you are hired. Also this is one of the most stagnant franchises in NFL history. Those fucking trophies are so old they are irrelevant. Like the championships of those ancient Browns and Lions teams of the past. This organization is comparable to the old Bungles or any other joke franchise of NFL history you can think of.
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It has just been that the Cowboys are still a marquee brand, super popular, etc. Remember Parcells talking about wanting to play the Big Room and not some lounge act. I mean, these guys do have huge egos, at least a lot of them.

But yeah, with every passing year that seems to be fading. You see people say, "I wouldn't hold what Saleh did at the Jets against him because that organization is such a disaster." We're getting pretty close to having a reputation like that.
 
Texas Ace said:
That's a question I've been asking for a long time.

It's not like it helps your career at all.

It's like you said, it's no secret why you're getting job, right? You're a shit coach who the family feels will let them keep running things the way that they like, so it's not like you can justify taking the job for the experience or whatever because it never leads to anything.

Dave Campo nor Jason Garrett ever received another HC offer from ANYWHERE.

And my guess is that whichever of these awful candidates they hire next will end up with the same fate.

So again, why the hell would anyone why has aspirations in cushion coaching ever want to be the HC here?
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I mean our recent former OC and DC are in the NFC championship so it's not exactly a career killer.

But being fire as head coach or let go rarely leads to a new head coaching opportunity.

Anyway, I do think the Cowboys job gets overrated but it does have it's positives. Fairly talented roster, spot light and prestige, and frankly you know you'll get plenty of chances to prove yourself. Dallas doesn't shuffle head coaches every one to two years like a lot of franchises. So you kind of have job security here.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I mean our recent former OC and DC are in the NFC championship so it's not exactly a career killer.

But being fire as head coach or let go rarely leads to a new head coaching opportunity.

Anyway, I do think the Cowboys job gets overrated but it does have it's positives. Fairly talented roster, spot light and prestige, and frankly you know you'll get plenty of chances to prove yourself. Dallas doesn't shuffle head coaches every one to two years like a lot of franchises. So you kind of have job security here.
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Exactly right. It's actually not that complicated.

Regardless of everything the cowboys are high profile with many prime time games with high ratings and if you are coaching on the team you will get noticed and if you do remotely well you'll get future opportunities.
 
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