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Bill Shatner said:
He's not an assassin. He folds in playoffs most of the time. Just not worth the money he is going to command on the market. I'm ready for the struggle years looking for the next QB instead of the annual disappointment watching this guy flounder in the playoffs.
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Just remember, 5 years is but a blink and we have a history of replacing our top rated QBs with quality that falls in our laps. That’s reassuring, isn’t it?
 
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Ask yourselves this question: Given Dak’s obvious shortcomings against teams above .500 and in the playoffs, and given that Mike McCarthy has a history of winning 10-12 games a year based on his version of the WCO, is Dak Prescott $54M-$57M better than either of his backups?

My answer is no. Because if you know that you won’t progress past the Divisional Round with him or his backup, why waste the extra money and time on him rather than investing in throughout the rest of the team and at the QB position in the hope of landing someone who can?
 
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Plan9Misfit said:
Ask yourselves this question: Given Dak’s obvious shortcomings against teams above .500 and in the playoffs, and given that Mike McCarthy has a history of winning 10-12 games a year based on his version of the WCO, is Dak Prescott $54M-$57M better than either of his backups?

My answer is no. Because if you know that you won’t progress past the Divisional Round with him or his backup, why waste the extra money and time on him rather than investing in throughout the rest of the team and at the QB position in the hope of landing someone who can?
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No. If winning more games than you lose is the only real goal here, Rush will do the job for substantially less and we’ll still lose the last game of the season every year.
 
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Sheik said:
No. If winning more games than you lose is the only real goal here, Rush will do the job for substantially less and we’ll still lose the last game of the season every year.
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That’s the point. The result will be the same whether Dak, Rush, or Lance are under center, only the latter two will cost a lot less.
 
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Sheik said:
No. If winning more games than you lose is the only real goal here, Rush will do the job for substantially less and we’ll still lose the last game of the season every year.
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So your goal is to save Jerry and Stephen money so they can buy more yachts? I'm confused on why you care about their money.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
So your goal is to save Jerry and Stephen money so they can buy more yachts? I'm confused on why you care about their money.
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We won't go crazy in free agency, but a cheaper QB would at least let us keep more of the young players we develop then have to let go.

Like Dorance : sad
 
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We won't go crazy in free agency, but a cheaper QB would at least let us keep more of the young players we develop then have to let go.

Like Dorance : sad
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I was going to say? Which young players are you concerned about losing? Dorance Armstrong? Tyler Biadasz? Tony Pollard?

We already keep the guys worth keeping. So I don't see a cheaper QB helping other than the Cowboys will just have to make sure they spend above the minimum threshold which can't be that hard. That probably means giving guys like I listed above comfy extensions. I'll pass on that life.

Anyway, my point is I don't really give a shit about the money. If you want a better QB than Dak, go for it. Maybe you'll find a top 5 in the NFL type QB. But beyond that it's just an exercise in futility. And even at that, Lamar Jackson hasn't won a Superbowl. Josh Allen hasn't won a Superbowl, Joe Burrow hasn't won a Superbowl. So even having a top 5 QB in the NFL is far from a guarantee of a Superbowl. Not without an organization who is willing to spend money to add a bunch of talent all at one time. Or you find Mahomes.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
I was going to say? Which young players are you concerned about losing? Dorance Armstrong? Tyler Biadasz? Tony Pollard?

We already keep the guys worth keeping. So I don't see a cheaper QB helping other than the Cowboys will just have to make sure they spend above the minimum threshold which can't be that hard. That probably means giving guys like I listed above comfy extensions. I'll pass on that life.
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I'd take Pollard right now, darn right.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
I wouldn't have signed him for the contract he signed. He is a nice RB but I'd never pay RB's at his point in his career.
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I would if it meant I didn't have to see Fat #15 being force-fed carries at three yards a clip.
 
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Chocolate Lab said:
It's not 100% that we'd have a Troy to Romo desert, though. We didn't have a desert after Romo.

As dumb as Jerry is, we have been pretty good at drafting. Would the next QB he another Mahomes, or even a top-3,4 kind of QB? Odds say no. But I bet we could find someone else to go 2-5 in the playoffs and never get past the divisional round.
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Exactly this. The risk that we are gonna turn into the Bears and not have a competent playoff QB for 40 years is basically non existent.
 
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Sheik said:
No. If winning more games than you lose is the only real goal here, Rush will do the job for substantially less and we’ll still lose the last game of the season every year.
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Rush is not nearly as good as you claim he is. He's a bus driver, nothing more. Once teams see more of him, the less effective he'll be. He's fine as a backup. A guy you can win a few games with if need be. Dak has his warts, no doubt. But he is an infinitely better QB than Rush is.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
I was going to say? Which young players are you concerned about losing? Dorance Armstrong? Tyler Biadasz? Tony Pollard?

We already keep the guys worth keeping. So I don't see a cheaper QB helping other than the Cowboys will just have to make sure they spend above the minimum threshold which can't be that hard. That probably means giving guys like I listed above comfy extensions. I'll pass on that life.

Anyway, my point is I don't really give a shit about the money. If you want a better QB than Dak, go for it. Maybe you'll find a top 5 in the NFL type QB. But beyond that it's just an exercise in futility. And even at that, Lamar Jackson hasn't won a Superbowl. Josh Allen hasn't won a Superbowl, Joe Burrow hasn't won a Superbowl. So even having a top 5 QB in the NFL is far from a guarantee of a Superbowl. Not without an organization who is willing to spend money to add a bunch of talent all at one time. Or you find Mahomes.
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Eh, there’s a pretty good history of teams winning when they have QBs on rookie deals and not so much afterwards.
 
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Simpleton said:
What I really like about this idea is that Dak is very obviously a selfish, greedy piece of shit with absolutely no interest in taking slightly less for the good of the roster around him.
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This part right here is why I wouldn't bother re-signing him at all. I know we're in line to get crushed by a huge cap number but I'd rather take that one year kick in the ass than continue to tie myself to a QB who regresses once the postseason rolls around. If you're being paid $60 million/year you're expected to do more with less. Dak's not capable of doing that on a consistent basis.

We're just spinning our wheels with him. We'll probably hit 9-12 wins but once the playoffs roll around he'll crumble under the pressure.
 
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