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No one else on the roster can long snap. Without him we'd be screwed.
No one else on the roster can long snap. Without him we'd be screwed.
Just think. With this OL, if we even had an average RB, they'd probably rush for 5,000 yards.If the OL goes down, Murray would be below average.
I didn't pick Murray as one of my 3 but I agree. Some of the shit talking like Murray is just an average back lately is crazy. He might not have crazy great vision but dude is fast and runs with tremendous power. He can turn the corner with the best of them and run over guys as well as anyone. When you need 1 yard, he will knock a dude over to get you 3.Just think. With this OL, if we even had an average RB, they'd probably rush for 5,000 yards.
The line was ok but they spent all their time in pass protection mode. Hard to balance a game where the game plan is predominantly throwing the ball. Has everyone already forgotten all the angts about not running the ball?No kidding, I've been talking about this for a while. Our offensive line was very good last year. It just happens to be even better this year.
Yeah here the guy breaks the record of a football legend and icon and he is viewed as a so so back who doesn't have vision. Sounds pretty picky to me.I didn't pick Murray as one of my 3 but I agree. Some of the shit talking like Murray is just an average back lately is crazy. He might not have crazy great vision but dude is fast and runs with tremendous power. He can turn the corner with the best of them and run over guys as well as anyone. When you need 1 yard, he will knock a dude over to get you 3.
When it is said he doesn't have vision, that doesn't mean he has none. But you can't look at the guy in the open field beyond the line of scrimmage and claim he is gifted in that regard.Yeah here the guy breaks the record of a football legend and icon and he is viewed as a so so back who doesn't have vision. Sounds pretty picky to me.
Listen, I like Rolando McClain right now, but I think we might be getting just a LITTLE bit carried away.
Not if you count that Leary and Frederick both improved substantially.Last years line wasn't shitty. Martin has been good, but he's be the only upgrade.
Or somebody started trusting the OL to do their effing job and quit calling plays like a scared little woman.Not if you count that Leary and Frederick both improved substantially.
You know, when people say "The line is more responsible for what Murray is doing than Murray himself" that is not the same as saying "anyone could do this."Obviously, I don't agree with you. Not just any back could do what Murray has done over the last 3 years, and to imply otherwise is retarded.
Sure, that too, but come on.Or somebody started trusting the OL to do their effing job and quit calling plays like a scared little woman.
Leary has progressed for sure. Frederick was rock solid last year, only now he can work the middle with quality next to him instead of trying to overcompensate for both sides.Not if you count that Leary and Frederick both improved substantially.
Murray's average per carry this year is the exact same as his career average...You know, when people say "The line is more responsible for what Murray is doing than Murray himself" that is not the same as saying "anyone could do this."
It means there is a difference between Murrary's career average/expectation; and that difference is due more to the line's performance than it is to Murray actually playing better himself.
Still, Murrary's career expectation is a high level/near Pro Bowl caliber back.
Some bottom of the barrel guy of course won't be able to do the same thing.
I have never made a comment about his vision. That topic is used by others. Frankly I don't know why it's a big deal in their first place since the end result is outstanding performance. If the worst someone can identify is vision issues it comes across as a trival assessment.When it is said he doesn't have vision, that doesn't mean he has none. But you can't look at the guy in the open field beyond the line of scrimmage and claim he is gifted in that regard.
So you're saying the difference in production is the OL then?Murray's average per carry this year is the exact same as his career average...
They've both progressed for sure. Frederick was a revelation last year -- but part of that was because we were used to dogshit at the position.Leary has progressed for sure. Frederick was rock solid last year, only now he can work the middle with quality next to him instead of trying to overcompensate for both sides.
Or the team continuing to run instead of just thinking of it as something to do to break the monotony.So you're saying the difference in production is the OL then?
Hard to have a lot of yards when you only get 10-15 carries a game.Or the team continuing to run instead of just thinking of it as something to do to break the monotony.
So, LP is in your top 3... noted.No one else on the roster can long snap. Without him we'd be screwed.
They are producing because they are committed to and believe in running the ball. Any statistical way you look at it, the raw average numbers are the same.So you're saying the difference in production is the OL then?