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Smitty

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No.

Not all trans people experience distress over it. If there is no distress, there is no diagnosis. It's literally the 2nd sentence in the diagnostic feature section.
There is no trans absent enough distress identify a mismatch between biological reality and the invented concept of gender identity.

Can you prove what gender identity is? No, it's just everyone's feeling of detachment from biologic reality.

That feeling is per se evidence of unease, sorry.

Some people try to argue that proof of transgenderism without the dysphoria is evidenced by lack of distress, but positive gender EUPHORIA at being the opposite gender, but that's just two sides of the same coin.
 

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The time/effort Smitty puts into his posts to prove what an expert he is in any given subject to people he doesn't even know is fascinating.
 

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The time/effort Smitty puts into his posts to prove what an expert he is in any given subject to people he doesn't even know is fascinating.
The lack of time and effort people like you and Prodigal son put into your posts before spouting off on something you are ignorant of is equally fascinating.

At least I have a basis for the stuff I say cause I've read something about it. You on the other hand know nothing about it other than CNN talking points.
 

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Your opinions are presented as facts, Smitty.
That's what debating is, doofus.

When someone says "January 6th was a riot" (an opinion presented as fact), then I counter with "No it wasn't."

You state it as a fact and then present evidence.

No one frames their positions as "This is what it is, but remember this is just my opinion." Not you, not me, not Prodigal Son, not anyone.

FWIW, the "You state your opinion as fact," crowd is just the loser crowd who also stated their opinion as fact and then got their ass kicked in the discussion, usually.

A good portion of them are just outright wrong.
Maybe, but you aren't able to identify them.
 

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You just mentioned one, dumbass. I should have put "irrefutable" in front of "facts". Please forgive my lack of time and effort.

This is not a question of whether you're wearing a blue or gray shirt.
That was a riot, as was most of the BLM "protests".
 

Smitty

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You just mentioned one, dumbass. I should have put "irrefutable" in front of "facts". Please forgive my lack of time and effort.
It's not my job to make it easier for you to argue against my points. You do the exact same thing so spare me the crying.

That was a riot, as was most of the BLM "protests".
Opinion presented as fact alert.
 

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The lack of time and effort people like you and Prodigal son put into your posts before spouting off on something you are ignorant of is equally fascinating.

At least I have a basis for the stuff I say cause I've read something about it. You on the other hand know nothing about it other than CNN talking points.
This is all 100% true.
 

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@Cotton @NoDak

What am I missing with this guy here? I express my opinion as fact? He doesn't?

I'm confused.
They both have bought into the national culture that has brought us to this point. That's the culture we have to change or we will lose the rest of it.
 

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There is no trans absent enough distress identify a mismatch between biological reality and the invented concept of gender identity.

Can you prove what gender identity is? No, it's just everyone's feeling of detachment from biologic reality.

That feeling is per se evidence of unease, sorry.

Some people try to argue that proof of transgenderism without the dysphoria is evidenced by lack of distress, but positive gender EUPHORIA at being the opposite gender, but that's just two sides of the same coin.
"per se evidence of unease" and distress are different. Someone can feel uneasy about their looks/identity and not be in distress. Stop trying to generalize the whole community.

Let's try a different scenario. Say you were raped as a kid. If you experienced no long lasting negative effects from it, would you be classified as mentally ill? No, you would be a rape victim. Now lets say you have all kinds of symptoms related to that trauma. We don't label you as mentally ill because you were raped. You have the label because you have PTSD based on the symptoms associated with the event. That is the same with trans and gender dysphoria. It's the symptoms related to the feeling of being in the wrong body that create the mental illness, not the thought of being in the wrong body itself.
 

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They both have bought into the national culture that has brought us to this point. That's the culture we have to change or we will lose the rest of it.
No, the culture I buy in to is be kind of one another. Overall public safety and the ability to live your private life as you see fit as long as it doesn't F with the greater good.
 

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the ability to live your private life as you see fit as long as it doesn't F with the greater good.
Agreed. So, stop teaching this shit to kids and get drag shows out of schools. Oh, and if a dude walks into a bathroom with my daughter I will go to prison.
 

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"per se evidence of unease" and distress are different. Someone can feel uneasy about their looks/identity and not be in distress. Stop trying to generalize the whole community.

Let's try a different scenario. Say you were raped as a kid. If you experienced no long lasting negative effects from it, would you be classified as mentally ill? No, you would be a rape victim. Now lets say you have all kinds of symptoms related to that trauma. We don't label you as mentally ill because you were raped. You have the label because you have PTSD based on the symptoms associated with the event. That is the same with trans and gender dysphoria. It's the symptoms related to the feeling of being in the wrong body that create the mental illness, not the thought of being in the wrong body itself.
God, that's a stupid comparison.
 

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People who think they're Napoleon: do we indulge their delusions or do we get them help? We get them help.

But that's different!

No, it really isn't.
 
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