NoDak, I wasn't trying to pigeonhole you. Sorry of it seemed like I was being a jerk to you. I was generally spewing thoughts off the top off head between things. My bad if it landed on you personally. I didn't mean that you have sex or believe in it outside of marriage. All I know is what you shared. You seem like a solid dude, so I wouldn't think that. If my morals don't line up with yours in anyway then just ignore me.
BTW, I HATE being pigeonholed myself.
As far as jerking off...well, I have used that several times because I figured it was language that most here can understand. It is funny how nobody wants to look you in the eye when the subject is brought up.
I've always wondered how there can be such a separation in moral issues for people. The lines seem very inconsistent to me. For example, if you don't want your daughter to engage in certain immoral things sexually, then you must see the value in being wholesome. In your mind there must be reasons that you believe that. Things like possible diseases, being seen as a whore, lowering her value as a woman by giving it up freely. Most value their daughters as something precious and dear to their hearts. So there I a moral standard or precedence in your mind. On the other hand it is pretty common for us to not have a problem with whoring out and taking advantage of someone else's daughter. Be it physically or through pornography. Why would you be pissed to see your daughter getting tossed around, flipped over and sold through videos. You don't want to cheapen your daughter like that. So why is it cool or is to objectify someone else's daughter. To me that is the epitome of moral inconsistency. I tried to dumb to down to "jerking off" but that is what I mean. I just figure that nobody wanted me to smitty the topic up. Instead I gave a lazy answer.