Severe Weather Thread...

[Cotton]

 

[Rev]

The asstros did a moment of silence. About par for that organization.

 

[Cotton]

The asstros did a moment of silence. About par for that organization.

To be fair...

 

[Rev]

To be fair...

There is no fair. I refuse to acknowledge it.


Yes it was all hyperbole

 

[1bigfan13]

I found out earlier today a Command Sergeant Major I served 3 years with at Fort Hood was killed during the storm.

He lived in an area about 30 miles northwest of Austin. According to his family, he climbed a tree to escape the flood waters and was struck in the head by debris.

He'd been missing for a couple of days and they just found him late last night.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I found out earlier today a Command Sergeant Major I served 3 years with at Fort Hood was killed during the storm.

He lived in an area about 30 miles northwest of Austin. According to his family, he climbed a tree to escape the flood waters and was struck in the head by debris.

He'd been missing for a couple of days and they just found him late last night.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

 

[Rev]

And raining again.....

 

[Chocolate Lab]

My two cents on something...

I can't believe people are still grilling the police, local officials, etc. for this.

Forget the people who are using this for cheap political points, that's completely gross and those people are completely unreasonable and sick.

But I guess I'm surprised so many people actually think this was someone's fault. Do people not realize that Mother Nature is far bigger than anything we puny humans can do? This was a situation with tropical remnants, a slow moving storm, and an area that drains (and can flood) very quickly. All of Kerrville county only has about 50k people. Even cell service isn't good in places out there in the country. What did you want the cops or the sheriff or the NWS or the governor to do?

It's horrible for those girls, of course. That goes without saying. But stop acting like someone caused this or could have prevented it all. Some things just happen in this world.

 

[bbgun]

The critics don't want to concede that "flash" means "sudden." Would Newsom be blamed if an earthquake killed thousands? Not likely.

 

[Rev]

My two cents on something...

I can't believe people are still grilling the police, local officials, etc. for this.

Forget the people who are using this for cheap political points, that's completely gross and those people are completely unreasonable and sick.

But I guess I'm surprised so many people actually think this was someone's fault. Do people not realize that Mother Nature is far bigger than anything we puny humans can do? This was a situation with tropical remnants, a slow moving storm, and an area that drains (and can flood) very quickly. All of Kerrville county only has about 50k people. Even cell service isn't good in places out there in the country. What did you want the cops or the sheriff or the NWS or the governor to do?

It's horrible for those girls, of course. That goes without saying. But stop acting like someone caused this or could have prevented it all. Some things just happen in this world.

My favorite one is this ass in Virginia spewing this shit on TikTok and then 2 days later trying to issue an apology when it came to the forefront that he is trying to run for political office.

Way to kill your campaign you piece of shit and no I don't buy your sincerity.


Or the wife of a pastor that was cheering the deaths of the girls at camp mystic because it's a "white supremecist" camp. She got fired from her job in the city of Houston. Husband should have kicked her out as well.

 

[Texas Ace]

My two cents on something...

I can't believe people are still grilling the police, local officials, etc. for this.

Forget the people who are using this for cheap political points, that's completely gross and those people are completely unreasonable and sick.

But I guess I'm surprised so many people actually think this was someone's fault. Do people not realize that Mother Nature is far bigger than anything we puny humans can do? This was a situation with tropical remnants, a slow moving storm, and an area that drains (and can flood) very quickly. All of Kerrville county only has about 50k people. Even cell service isn't good in places out there in the country. What did you want the cops or the sheriff or the NWS or the governor to do?

It's horrible for those girls, of course. That goes without saying. But stop acting like someone caused this or could have prevented it all. Some things just happen in this world.

I agree 100% and I said as much to my wife.

When something so horrible and so tragic happens, people become unreasonable because they're looking for someone to blame and they want answers -- and I totally get it because if that was my child, I can't say I wouldn't feel the same way.

But the truth of the matter is, when you're dealing with historic weather events like this, there's no real way to prevent anything. And I know because I've experienced something very similar twice in my lifetime living in Houston.

For example, back in 2017 when Houston got hit with the remnants of Hurricane Harvey, they warned us going into that weekend that we were at risk to get hit with "a hundred year flooding event".

I mean, you can't get more of a heads up than that, right? And for that reason, everybody prepared by going to the stores beforehand and stocking supplies and groceries. And for roughly a week while all this torrential rain came down, most establishments were closed because people knew that whatever reprieve that we got was only temporary and there was a risk that you could get caught in a flash flood if you took the risk of driving out during the rain periods. So most establishments remained closed and most people stayed off the roads.

But the worst night of them all was a Saturday night. I believe the rain started on a Thursday night and didn't stop till a week later. But that Saturday was the night when we got a torrential downpour very similar to what happened the other day in Central Texas.

Meteorologists can tell that the conditions are in place for an extreme weather event, but not they nor anyone else can tell you when to expect 20 feet of rain to fall in an hour or whatever.

There's just no way you can predict exactly that to happen.

So that Saturday night so many people were caught off guard because while you knew that you needed to be on the lookout for rain, you couldn't know specifically that you needed to be ready to jump into the attic because your house could potentially be flooded in an hour or less from when the storms that night began.

But that's exactly what happened to so many people in my family, including my parents. In fact, they were asleep and the water was already halfway up the driveway and they had no clue. Thankfully a neighbor thought to call my dad to warn him and that is what woke my parents up.

I remember my dad telling me that when he looked out the window the water was 75% up the driveway, So they started unplugging stuff from the power outlets and trying to get some stuff off the floor and put it onto the countertops and tabletops, etc. They didn't get much done because in roughly 15 min from when they looked out the window, they were standing in shin deep water in their house.

That's when they decided to go up to the attic and thankfully only 10-20 min after that, the Harris County Sheriff's department showed up in a boat and got them out.

I can't tell you how grateful I am for that because so many other people had to wait 12-18 hours to be rescued off the rooftops of their home, so my parents were very fortunate that the sheriff's department were already in the neighborhood.

So, like I said, there is NO WAY to keep something like that from happening or even anticipate that something so extreme and so rare is going to happen.

I feel so bad for those families. As a parent, your heart just breaks for them. But because of the extreme nature of the event and the awful tragedies that came from it, people become unreasonable and demand answers and hold others accountable when it isn't fair.

Unfortunately, there just wasn't much that could be done.

 

[Texas Ace]

If there is one legitimate gripe, it has to do with the girls camp, and only under certain circumstances and I'll explain why.

Anyone here that's a parent knows exactly what it's like when your children are small and you don't want to let them go wherever it is that they're asking for permission to go to, right? Whether that's to a sleepover with their friends, a school dance, a camping trip, or whatever else, right? And 99% of the time, why do we say no to our young children? Because we're concerned for their safety and well-being or we just don't trust the situation though to let them go without being under our direct supervision.

And when we do let them go, it's because we are convinced that that they'll be in safe hands with their friends' parents, camp counselor, church leader, school teacher, field trip chaperone, etc.....right?

And that's key here -- whenever an entity wants you to enroll/register/allow your child to partake in whatever activity, service, or recreational outing they're providing, their number one priority, before they teach these kids how to read, swing a bat, learn a skill, see the mountains, or go on whatever experience that it is -- is the safety and well-being of the children.

That's what they All have in common -- that their number one priority before they do anything else is to ensure that this comes first before all else.

If they can't guarantee that, then none of those other activities ever get a chance to occur because they'd be putting those children at risk.

And this is where I find myself wondering multiple things in regards to Camp Mystic.

They knew days beforehand that there was the potential for flooding and more importantly, FLASH flooding. They also knew that the location of the camp was within the areas that were under that threat.

This is a camp that is literally steps away from the river, so it would be completely unacceptable if the potential for bad weather and the threats it could pose to the campsite, and specifically those children, was never discussed or taken into consideration.

So here are what I believe are reasonable questions that people should be asking:

1. Were you aware that the camp was in the warning area?

2. If so, was there any consideration given to canceling or postponing for the weekend? If not, why not?

3. If a discussion was had to consider postponing/cancelling, then what was the reasoning given by those in power to decide to go ahead with the weekend as planned?

4. Once the decision was made to go ahead as planned, were there any discussions about the potential for severe weather to affect the campsite? If so, was a firm plan put in place or were protocols implemented for how exactly the camp would be evacuated?

Was a location already agreed upon?

Was the mode of transportation already secured?

Was the staff completely and fully briefed and made aware on what their responsibilities would be in the event that the camp would need to be evacuated?

If the answer is no to most of those questions from #2 on down, then you have a legitimate case for negligence.

But as far as everything else is concerned, there is no one person or persons to blame for such a catastrophic act of nature.

 

[1bigfan13]

But I guess I'm surprised so many people actually think this was someone's fault. Do people not realize that Mother Nature is far bigger than anything we puny humans can do?

Did you see this story?

Apparently some idiots were going around vandalizing weather radars in OKC because they've been convinced the weather is being controlled by the government.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Morons.

I've also seen people blaming cloud seeding. They seeded like two days earlier when it wouldn't have any effect on what happened. Cloud seeding is more a scam than anything that would actually cause flooding.

 

[Cujo]

Morons.

I've also seen people blaming cloud seeding. They seeded like two days earlier when it wouldn't have any effect on what happened. Cloud seeding is more a scam than anything that would actually cause flooding.

This catastrophe has really brought out the worst in people. I used to think that if a big enough catastrophe occurred, it might bond us together, kind of like 9/11 did. I'm not so sure it's even possible anymore. I don't think there are enough people left in society that value peace.



This sounds like a generalization, I would also like to say it has brought the good in a lot of people.

 

[Rev]

This sounds like a generalization, I would also like to say it has brought the good in a lot of people.

A Burger joint in Round Rock was donating 100% of their profits yesterday to disaster relief. The line of cars to get there was literally multiple blocks long. Im sure they didn't have enough food and I would imagine most was just a donation it was so long.