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Cotton

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No rioting, amirite, Plan9?
 

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No rioting, amirite, Plan9?
They certainly are now. Most of them aren’t, but I said that this is going to continue escalating because that’s what your dear leader wants. And the moment more national guard and/or military show up, the worse this will get. Because, your dear leader doesn’t want deescalation. He wants chaos to continue to “prove” that immigration is dangerous.
 

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I’m curious to know what the crowd sizes are like as well. How many of the actual protestors are still there as opposed to filks who are merely looking for reasons to loot?
 

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They certainly are now. Most of them aren’t, but I said that this is going to continue escalating because that’s what your dear leader wants. And the moment more national guard and/or military show up, the worse this will get. Because, your dear leader doesn’t want deescalation. He wants chaos to continue to “prove” that immigration is dangerous.
You said, and I quote, "there is no rioting happening in LA".
 

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Does this matter at all?

I guess not, since "Trump wanted the rioting to happen." :doh

 

Plan9Misfit

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Does this matter at all?

I guess not, since "Trump wanted the rioting to happen." :doh

That absolutely matters. What’s worse is that protests are now starting to pop up across the country. This situation is going to get ugly really quickly.
 

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On the other hand, reports were the protests started when ICE started arresting day workers at Home Depot.
Both were likely occurring. It’s ICE that we’re talking about here.
 

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There is not a damn fucking person on this message board who has done more to employ immigrants to this country than me.

I know, small achievement.

But everyone I ever employed was legal and many found their way to citizenship. And I was proud to be able to provide them an opportunity.
Bravo, sir -- I commend you for that.

That's how my old man got his chance to work in 1974.
 

Texas Ace

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The immigration thing is tricky for me.

My dad came here illegally in 1974 to make a better life for himself. There's next to no hope in 3rd world countries which is exactly what El Salvador is (though the country is making massive improvements with each passing year under President Bukele).

So if not for him setting off on that grueling voyage all those years ago, I wouldn't be here and neither would my family.

He was the first of 9 to make it over with the majority coming over legally in the 80s. By 1993, all of my dad's brothers and sisters were here and 7 were American citizens and 2 were resident aliens, but all were here legally (they're all US citizens now, obviously).

My dad made the most of his opportunities and busted his ass. He became a plant manager for Dow Chemical where he worked for 36 years until he retired in 2016.

He's a perfect example of the American dream and what it's supposed to stand for. He loves this country and has always been grateful for the opportunities it afforded him. And he's been a staunch Republican for as long as I can remember.

He's a productive member of society like so many others like him.

But what about all those other people who are in the exact same position my dad was 51 years ago? Good, hardworking people who just want a chance to make a decent life for themselves that their current countries can't and won't ever be able to provide?

I empathize with them.... because I know what those places are like and I know what it is to just want a decent life for yourself and for the people you love. So I can't fault anyone for doing what they have to do to get into this country, but I also understand illegal migration is out of control and needs to be addressed which is why I'm in total favor of controlling our borders.

I just can't bring myself to have that "get them the fuck out of here" sort of attitude about it though, you know?

I just count my lucky stars that my family and I are good, but I have compassion for the honest people who are being kept out and/or removed from this country.

It's tough.
 

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I'll never get the stupid ass thinking behind waving flags of another country.

You're arguing that you want to stay HERE, right? And that you don't want yourself or others to be sent away to their country of origin.....right?

So shouldn't you be waving AMERICAN flags?

Fucking morons.
 

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That's Los Angeles for you.

Shitbag, dump of a city.

I love Southern California and I think it's beautiful there, but L.A. is the armpit of that region.
And it’s downtown LA, which is one of the worst sections of the entire county. Utter shit hole.
 

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To be fair, this guy has clearly never witnessed what happens when the Lakers win. Cars (including cop cars) are routinely flipped over and set on fire, buildings are looted, and public property is vandalized and destroyed.
 

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I'll never get the stupid ass thinking behind waving flags of another country.

You're arguing that you want to stay HERE, right? And that you don't want yourself or others to be sent away to their country of origin.....right?

So shouldn't you be waving AMERICAN flags?

Fucking morons.
I bet half or more are professional agitators. I used to think that was tin foil hat stuff, but not anymore. They are too organized and a lot of it is just to continue the idea that it is okay for everyday leeches on society to loot stores under the guise of social justice. Fuck the lot of them.
 
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