Random Politics Stuff Thread...

[gp_cowpolk]

What a dumb fuck.

Fixed it for ya

 

[Cotton]

Fixed it for ya

He is literally saying that the way to fight inflation is to raise taxes and take more money from the people. Jesus Christ, that is absolute economic lunacy.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

He is literally saying that the way to fight inflation is to raise taxes and take more money from the people. Jesus Christ, that is absolute economic lunacy.

I think he is actually that clueless. Politicians aren't intelligent people. They just know how to politic. Most of these fucks couldn't even pass an economics course.

 

[Cotton]

I think he is actually that clueless. Politicians aren't intelligent people. They just know how to politic. Most of these fucks couldn't even pass an economics course.

This is how I lean, too.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[NoDak]

Jesus Christ. I wasn't expecting that. That F'n scared me.

 

[Cujo]

These fuckers either don't know what they're talking about or they think they can just push absolute idiocy and expect the American people to believe it.

They are too accustomed to their voters believing everything they say. Their entire agenda is reliant upon it now

 

[Smitty]

I think he is actually that clueless. Politicians aren't intelligent people. They just know how to politic. Most of these fucks couldn't even pass an economics course.

Well raising taxes is ONE way to fight inflation.

I just wouldn't think it was the best way.

Inflation is a problem when there's too much demand (and money available to fund the demand) and not enough supply (services/products).

The solution should be to increase supply/output. But another solution would be to take money away, ie, the opposite of the thing that caused this inflation (the stimulus putting loads of money into everyone's hands). Raising taxes would, in theory, do that.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Well raising taxes is ONE way to fight inflation.

I just wouldn't think it was the best way.

Inflation is a problem when there's too much demand (and money available to fund the demand) and not enough supply (services/products).

The solution should be to increase supply/output. But another solution would be to take money away, ie, the opposite of the thing that caused this inflation (the stimulus putting loads of money into everyone's hands). Raising taxes would, in theory, do that.

So yes increasing taxes can lower inflation. It's just because people have less money to spend. Resulting in less money to make purchases which decreases the price of goods. But that doesn't actually help people. That's just a shitty way of saying, see we stopped inflation, while actually hurting people. I guess it could potentially help the people who avoid paying taxes. But again, you're not helping the economy overall, you're actually hurting it. Again, these people have no idea what economics are. They were just told by someone that increased taxes can slow the inflation rate. Without actually understanding why.

You're absolutely right in that if you want to fix this and make people's lives better you have to worry about the supply side. And taxes don't actually help the supply side at all. In fact increased taxes can have some negative impacts on the supply side of things.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Well raising taxes is ONE way to fight inflation.

I just wouldn't think it was the best way.

Inflation is a problem when there's too much demand (and money available to fund the demand) and not enough supply (services/products).

The solution should be to increase supply/output. But another solution would be to take money away, ie, the opposite of the thing that caused this inflation (the stimulus putting loads of money into everyone's hands). Raising taxes would, in theory, do that.

But the biggest cause of inflation is simple money printing, and this wouldn't solve that at all.

In fact, we know they'd probably react to the economic downtick these raised taxes would cause by... of course... printing trillions more dollars in the name of stimulus and "rescue plans."

 

[Smitty]

So yes increasing taxes can lower inflation. It's just because people have less money to spend. Resulting in less money to make purchases which decreases the price of goods. But that doesn't actually help people. That's just a shitty way of saying, see we stopped inflation, while actually hurting people. I guess it could potentially help the people who avoid paying taxes. But again, you're not helping the economy overall, you're actually hurting it. Again, these people have no idea what economics are. They were just told by someone that increased taxes can slow the inflation rate. Without actually understanding why.

You're absolutely right in that if you want to fix this and make people's lives better you have to worry about the supply side. And taxes don't actually help the supply side at all. In fact increased taxes can have some negative impacts on the supply side of things.

Right, this was my point. Taking away money can stop inflation because no one will be able to afford things, it's just a fucking stupid solution.

We all get more wealthy the more things are produced. That's the solution to all of this. Produce more, more cheaply.

If even the poorest person had everything they needed in excess, then it wouldn't matter if there was a 1% or not.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Right, this was my point. Taking away money can stop inflation because no one will be able to afford things, it's just a fucking stupid solution.

We all get more wealthy the more things are produced. That's the solution to all of this. Produce more, more cheaply.

If even the poorest person had everything they needed in excess, then it wouldn't matter if there was a 1% or not.

Yep, and there are a number of factors as to why the supply side sucks right now. Covid, people just choosing not to work, Companies withholding goods, all that stuff.

 

[Cotton]

So yes increasing taxes can lower inflation. It's just because people have less money to spend. Resulting in less money to make purchases which decreases the price of goods. But that doesn't actually help people. That's just a shitty way of saying, see we stopped inflation, while actually hurting people. I guess it could potentially help the people who avoid paying taxes. But again, you're not helping the economy overall, you're actually hurting it. Again, these people have no idea what economics are. They were just told by someone that increased taxes can slow the inflation rate. Without actually understanding why.

You're absolutely right in that if you want to fix this and make people's lives better you have to worry about the supply side. And taxes don't actually help the supply side at all. In fact increased taxes can have some negative impacts on the supply side of things.

This is exactly right.

 

[jsmith6919]

Ministry of Truth

 

[Cotton]

Ministry of Truth

They fucking better not. It’s bad enough as it is.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

They fucking better not. It’s bad enough as it is.

Some of the shit going on feels like it's straight out of the movies. It feels that unreal and ridiculous to me.

I'm not even talking about somewhat realistic movies. I'm talking about movies like Minority Report or Harry Potter.

 

[Cotton]

Some of the shit going on feels like it's straight out of the movies. It feels that unreal and ridiculous to me.

Covid did that. It's ridiculous how that was handled. Couple that with the insane trans bullshit and teaching sex to 5 year olds, and it is not a movie I would watch twice.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

They fucking better not. It’s bad enough as it is.

They know how bad the polls are, and they aren't going to just sit there and take a beating this November. They're going to double down and do as many radical things as they can before then.

 

[Cotton]

They know how bad the polls are, and they aren't going to just sit there and take a beating this November. They're going to double down and do as many radical things as they can before then.

They think that helps them? Hell, they are fucking with our money (inflation) and our kids (CRT and the whole teaching babies sex) and the absolute two highest things on people's lists that you don't fuck with are a person's money or his kids. They are going to get slaughtered if they run on this shit.

 

[Cotton]