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Well, they do what they do in the name of Islam, so they are Muslims. Of course, they are the minority of Muslims, but they are Muslims.
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There is a distinction and it’s the extremist that the President has been targeting in his communication. Political disenters try to peddle it as Muslin faith individuals.
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It doesn't sound like he's targeting the extremists.
It sounds like he's targeting all Muslims.
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Don’t think so.
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I'm shocked.....I really am.
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Pull out the stuff that makes you think he is anti Muslim.
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Flynn to plead guilty to lying to FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador
Flynn to plead guilty to lying to FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador
Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn will plead guilty Friday to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador, according to court documents.
Flynn arrived at court Friday morning.
The White House declined to immediately comment, though a source who advises the White House on strategy said this was expected.
"Poor judgment. But this was expected. Trump fired him for lying to (Vice President Mike Pence). Of course, he lied to the FBI, too," the source said.
Flynn is the first Trump administration official and the fourth connected to the campaign to be charged as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Russian government and members of Trump's team, as well as potential obstruction of justice and financial crimes.
Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates were indicted last month; they pleaded not guilty. And Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty for making a false statement to the FBI over contacts with officials connected to the Russian government.
The charge against Flynn is the first in Mueller's probe that has reached someone in the Trump White House and is the latest sign that the special counsel's investigation is intensifying.
Flynn's lawyers have previously criticized media reports about his connection to the Russia investigation as peddling "unfounded allegations, outrageous claims of treason, and vicious innuendo directed against him." Flynn hasn't spoken publicly since his ouster in February.
The charges mark yet another stunning downfall for Flynn, 58, a retired general who rose to the highest ranks of the Army over a three-decade career -- only to see him drummed out of the military by the Obama administration before unexpectedly rising again on the heels of Trump's election victory.
A key campaign surrogate and adviser during President Donald Trump's presidential campaign, Flynn was tapped as Trump's national security adviser in November 2016, a senior White House job that put him in a vital role for all of the administration's national security and foreign policy decisions.
Though he wasn't initially considered for the top job, Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, and son-in-law Jared Kushner made it clear to the Trump transition team that they wanted him there, CNN has reported.
Flynn would hold the job less than a month, resigning from the post after he misled Pence and then-chief of staff Reince Priebus about his conversations with then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak in which they discussed US sanctions against Russia.
Flynn is also the spark of potential trouble for the President in Mueller's probe, as the special counsel is investigating potential obstruction of justice in the firing of FBI Director James Comey.
Comey testified before the Senate intelligence committee that Trump asked him to drop the Flynn probe during a February Oval Office meeting not long after Flynn resigned as national security adviser.
Flynn's conversations with Kislyak attracted scrutiny from federal investigators as part of the FBI's broader counterintelligence investigation of Russian activities in the US, and the calls were captured by routine US eavesdropping targeting the Russian diplomat, CNN has reported.
The Trump transition team acknowledged that Flynn and Kislyak spoke on the day in December 2016 that the Obama administration issued new sanctions against Russia and expelled 35 diplomats, but they insisted the conversation did not include sanctions — including denials that Pence and Priebus later repeated on national television.
Flynn resigned on February 13 after reports that he and Kislyak had spoken about sanctions and that the Justice Department had warned the White House that Flynn was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.
Details of how the DOJ warned the White House about Flynn's conduct were revealed months later in stunning testimony from former acting Attorney General Sally Yates, who said that she "believed that General Flynn was compromised with respect to the Russians" because of the misleading denials.
The charging document states that Flynn made a false statement to the FBI when he stated that in December 2016 he did not ask Kislyak "to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and Flynn did not recall the Russian ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request."
The document also says that Flynn falsely said he did not ask Kislyak to delay the vote on a pending United Nations Security Council resolution.
After his resignation, Flynn and his businesses quickly became a major interest of the House and Senate intelligence committee Russia probes.
But in March, Flynn's lawyer dropped a bombshell: "General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit," attorney Robert Kelner said, adding that Flynn was seeking immunity in exchange for his testimony. Committee leaders quickly rejected the offer.
Both committees eventually subpoenaed Flynn and his lobbying business, and he provided documents to both the House and Senate panels in June.
Flynn has not spoken to the congressional committees and has refused requests to appear voluntarily.
Flynn's legal issues stem from foreign payments he received after he started his own consulting firm.
Flynn founded the Flynn Intel Group after he retired from the military in 2014. The Obama White House pushed him out of his role as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the military's intelligence arm. Flynn was fired over claims he was a poor manager, though he says he was ousted by Obama administration officials unwilling to listen to his warnings about the rise of ISIS and an increasingly aggressive Iran.
Before he was named national security adviser, the FBI began investigating Flynn for secretly working during the presidential campaign as an unregistered lobbyist for Turkey, an investigation he disclosed to the Trump transition team before Trump took office.
Flynn wasn't the only Trump associate who faced scrutiny over foreign lobbying laws -- Manafort also filed a retroactive registration earlier this year for work he previously did in Ukraine.
Federal investigators were probing whether Flynn was secretly paid by the Turkish government as part of its public campaign against Fethullah Gulen, a critic of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who lives in exile in Pennsylvania. Erdogan blames Gulen and his supporters for plotting the failed Turkish coup last summer.
As part of his pro-Turkey lobbying, Flynn and his colleague held meetings during the Trump transition with Turkish representatives. According to The Wall Street Journal, Flynn and his son were offered as much as $15 million to forcibly remove from the United States a Turkish cleric wanted by Turkey.
CNN's legal analysts say the alleged plan to kidnap Gulen and subvert the US legal process would directly violate the US criminal code and could carry a punishment of as much as 20 years in federal prison. Lawyers for Flynn said the allegations "ranging from kidnapping to bribery" are completely false.
Flynn's lobbying firm was paid $530,000 by Inovo BV, a company owned by Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin, during the final months of the US presidential campaign. The Flynn Intel Group, which is no longer active, was tasked with producing an anti-Gulen documentary, though the final product never surfaced. Flynn also penned an op-ed criticizing Gulen, which was published on Election Day.
In March, Flynn's firm retroactively registered as a foreign agent that lobbied for the Turkish government.
Flynn to plead guilty to lying to FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador
Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn will plead guilty Friday to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador, according to court documents.
Flynn arrived at court Friday morning.
The White House declined to immediately comment, though a source who advises the White House on strategy said this was expected.
"Poor judgment. But this was expected. Trump fired him for lying to (Vice President Mike Pence). Of course, he lied to the FBI, too," the source said.
Flynn is the first Trump administration official and the fourth connected to the campaign to be charged as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Russian government and members of Trump's team, as well as potential obstruction of justice and financial crimes.
Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates were indicted last month; they pleaded not guilty. And Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty for making a false statement to the FBI over contacts with officials connected to the Russian government.
The charge against Flynn is the first in Mueller's probe that has reached someone in the Trump White House and is the latest sign that the special counsel's investigation is intensifying.
Flynn's lawyers have previously criticized media reports about his connection to the Russia investigation as peddling "unfounded allegations, outrageous claims of treason, and vicious innuendo directed against him." Flynn hasn't spoken publicly since his ouster in February.
The charges mark yet another stunning downfall for Flynn, 58, a retired general who rose to the highest ranks of the Army over a three-decade career -- only to see him drummed out of the military by the Obama administration before unexpectedly rising again on the heels of Trump's election victory.
A key campaign surrogate and adviser during President Donald Trump's presidential campaign, Flynn was tapped as Trump's national security adviser in November 2016, a senior White House job that put him in a vital role for all of the administration's national security and foreign policy decisions.
Though he wasn't initially considered for the top job, Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, and son-in-law Jared Kushner made it clear to the Trump transition team that they wanted him there, CNN has reported.
Flynn would hold the job less than a month, resigning from the post after he misled Pence and then-chief of staff Reince Priebus about his conversations with then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak in which they discussed US sanctions against Russia.
Flynn is also the spark of potential trouble for the President in Mueller's probe, as the special counsel is investigating potential obstruction of justice in the firing of FBI Director James Comey.
Comey testified before the Senate intelligence committee that Trump asked him to drop the Flynn probe during a February Oval Office meeting not long after Flynn resigned as national security adviser.
Flynn's conversations with Kislyak attracted scrutiny from federal investigators as part of the FBI's broader counterintelligence investigation of Russian activities in the US, and the calls were captured by routine US eavesdropping targeting the Russian diplomat, CNN has reported.
The Trump transition team acknowledged that Flynn and Kislyak spoke on the day in December 2016 that the Obama administration issued new sanctions against Russia and expelled 35 diplomats, but they insisted the conversation did not include sanctions — including denials that Pence and Priebus later repeated on national television.
Flynn resigned on February 13 after reports that he and Kislyak had spoken about sanctions and that the Justice Department had warned the White House that Flynn was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.
Details of how the DOJ warned the White House about Flynn's conduct were revealed months later in stunning testimony from former acting Attorney General Sally Yates, who said that she "believed that General Flynn was compromised with respect to the Russians" because of the misleading denials.
The charging document states that Flynn made a false statement to the FBI when he stated that in December 2016 he did not ask Kislyak "to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and Flynn did not recall the Russian ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request."
The document also says that Flynn falsely said he did not ask Kislyak to delay the vote on a pending United Nations Security Council resolution.
After his resignation, Flynn and his businesses quickly became a major interest of the House and Senate intelligence committee Russia probes.
But in March, Flynn's lawyer dropped a bombshell: "General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit," attorney Robert Kelner said, adding that Flynn was seeking immunity in exchange for his testimony. Committee leaders quickly rejected the offer.
Both committees eventually subpoenaed Flynn and his lobbying business, and he provided documents to both the House and Senate panels in June.
Flynn has not spoken to the congressional committees and has refused requests to appear voluntarily.
Flynn's legal issues stem from foreign payments he received after he started his own consulting firm.
Flynn founded the Flynn Intel Group after he retired from the military in 2014. The Obama White House pushed him out of his role as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the military's intelligence arm. Flynn was fired over claims he was a poor manager, though he says he was ousted by Obama administration officials unwilling to listen to his warnings about the rise of ISIS and an increasingly aggressive Iran.
Before he was named national security adviser, the FBI began investigating Flynn for secretly working during the presidential campaign as an unregistered lobbyist for Turkey, an investigation he disclosed to the Trump transition team before Trump took office.
Flynn wasn't the only Trump associate who faced scrutiny over foreign lobbying laws -- Manafort also filed a retroactive registration earlier this year for work he previously did in Ukraine.
Federal investigators were probing whether Flynn was secretly paid by the Turkish government as part of its public campaign against Fethullah Gulen, a critic of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who lives in exile in Pennsylvania. Erdogan blames Gulen and his supporters for plotting the failed Turkish coup last summer.
As part of his pro-Turkey lobbying, Flynn and his colleague held meetings during the Trump transition with Turkish representatives. According to The Wall Street Journal, Flynn and his son were offered as much as $15 million to forcibly remove from the United States a Turkish cleric wanted by Turkey.
CNN's legal analysts say the alleged plan to kidnap Gulen and subvert the US legal process would directly violate the US criminal code and could carry a punishment of as much as 20 years in federal prison. Lawyers for Flynn said the allegations "ranging from kidnapping to bribery" are completely false.
Flynn's lobbying firm was paid $530,000 by Inovo BV, a company owned by Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin, during the final months of the US presidential campaign. The Flynn Intel Group, which is no longer active, was tasked with producing an anti-Gulen documentary, though the final product never surfaced. Flynn also penned an op-ed criticizing Gulen, which was published on Election Day.
In March, Flynn's firm retroactively registered as a foreign agent that lobbied for the Turkish government.
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I bet you dipshits that voted for Trump heart's drop when you read this.
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I don’t expect much to come of it. The DOJ have what they want with his plea agreement but it’s not likely there is anything to tell to flow to the Trump administration or they would have already nailed it down without the plea agreement. He will probably just admit to his personal dealings and that will probably wrap up his case. He has nothing to lose confessing all since he has already made his deal. If you expect him to have secrets and undiscovered documents you will be disappointed.
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Trump going after Muslims and illegal immigrants is like Parcells rebuilding a team first by improving the special teams. It isn't the most impactful, but it is part of the problem and it's the quickest/easiest to achieve first.
Can't get Al Capone on murder? Get him on tax evasion.
Can't fix mass shootings, budget deficit, govt spending and other mountains? Let's round up the illegals for immediate deportation.
Can't get Al Capone on murder? Get him on tax evasion.
Can't fix mass shootings, budget deficit, govt spending and other mountains? Let's round up the illegals for immediate deportation.
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Judge Nap on Flynn's Guilty Plea: 'Monumental' Reduction of Charges Doesn't Come for Free
Judge Nap on Flynn's Guilty Plea: 'Monumental' Reduction of Charges Doesn't Come for Free
'Nightmare' for President Trump,' says Napolitano.
Judge Andrew Napolitano reacted this morning to the news that Gen. Michael Flynn is pleading guilty to making false statements to the FBI about discussions with Russian officials.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office announced the charge this morning. The false statements were:
"On or about Dec 29, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Government of Russia’s Ambassador to the United States (“Russian Ambassador”) to refrain from escalating situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and FLYNN did not recall the Russian Ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request; and ... On or about December 22, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution; and that the Russian Ambassador subsequently never described to FLYNN Russia’ response to his request."
Napolitano said the potential penalty on a charge of lying to the FBI is minimal compared to the 60 or so years Flynn could have faced on other allegations.
"With his guilty plea, he's reduced that to somewhere between six and 12 months. That is an enormous, gargantuan, monumental reduction. That doesn't come easily and it doesn't come for free,
The judge said it raises the "tantalizing" question of what information Flynn has given to Mueller.
"We will find out soon," said Napolitano.
Flynn served as President Trump's national security adviser and worked on Trump’s presidential campaign.
Napolitano stated later on "Outnumbered" that he sees the development as a "nightmare" for President Trump and the "tip of a prosecutorial iceberg."
He noted that Flynn was a "constant companion" of Trump on foreign policy and national security matters from June 2015 until early 2017.
Napolitano said one "downside" for Mueller's team is that Flynn has now admitted to lying to the FBI and may have credibility issues as a witness.
Later on in the show, constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley reacted, saying Flynn had a "lot of baggage" and Mueller could have pursued a host of other charges.
"We don't know if part of this plea agreement involves deliverables - whether Flynn was able to knock down a number of counts in return for giving information against other people," said Turley, saying it would be "rare" for Flynn to receive a "good deal" without such information.
Turley said, however, that those claiming this is a bombshell in terms of President Trump might be "getting ahead of [their] skis a bit."
Turley said he will "wait to see" what the indictment against Flynn says, adding that the indictment of Paul Manafort was on charges "significantly removed" from his work with the Trump campaign.
He noted that Flynn was "shown the door" by Trump for being untruthful in his statements to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russians.
Judge Nap on Flynn's Guilty Plea: 'Monumental' Reduction of Charges Doesn't Come for Free
'Nightmare' for President Trump,' says Napolitano.
Judge Andrew Napolitano reacted this morning to the news that Gen. Michael Flynn is pleading guilty to making false statements to the FBI about discussions with Russian officials.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office announced the charge this morning. The false statements were:
"On or about Dec 29, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Government of Russia’s Ambassador to the United States (“Russian Ambassador”) to refrain from escalating situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and FLYNN did not recall the Russian Ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request; and ... On or about December 22, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution; and that the Russian Ambassador subsequently never described to FLYNN Russia’ response to his request."
Napolitano said the potential penalty on a charge of lying to the FBI is minimal compared to the 60 or so years Flynn could have faced on other allegations.
"With his guilty plea, he's reduced that to somewhere between six and 12 months. That is an enormous, gargantuan, monumental reduction. That doesn't come easily and it doesn't come for free,
The judge said it raises the "tantalizing" question of what information Flynn has given to Mueller.
"We will find out soon," said Napolitano.
Flynn served as President Trump's national security adviser and worked on Trump’s presidential campaign.
Napolitano stated later on "Outnumbered" that he sees the development as a "nightmare" for President Trump and the "tip of a prosecutorial iceberg."
He noted that Flynn was a "constant companion" of Trump on foreign policy and national security matters from June 2015 until early 2017.
Napolitano said one "downside" for Mueller's team is that Flynn has now admitted to lying to the FBI and may have credibility issues as a witness.
Later on in the show, constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley reacted, saying Flynn had a "lot of baggage" and Mueller could have pursued a host of other charges.
"We don't know if part of this plea agreement involves deliverables - whether Flynn was able to knock down a number of counts in return for giving information against other people," said Turley, saying it would be "rare" for Flynn to receive a "good deal" without such information.
Turley said, however, that those claiming this is a bombshell in terms of President Trump might be "getting ahead of [their] skis a bit."
Turley said he will "wait to see" what the indictment against Flynn says, adding that the indictment of Paul Manafort was on charges "significantly removed" from his work with the Trump campaign.
He noted that Flynn was "shown the door" by Trump for being untruthful in his statements to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russians.
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It's funny because the Republican Party gets painted as the party of "hate" but in reality the Democratic side seems pretty hate filled as well. Right now the Democrats seem way more hateful but it's because Republican's control everything. If Democrats controlled everything you'd probably see it in reverse.How hateful are Democrats? This hateful.
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Oh, I wonder where the hate comes from for this woman?
Oh yeah, she's a fucking hypocrite Evan who lies on a daily basis for the worst leader in American history.
Oh yeah, she's a fucking hypocrite Evan who lies on a daily basis for the worst leader in American history.
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Is this a new term, I'm not familiar?
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Sources: Kushner told Flynn to contact Russian officials
It is all starting to come crumbling down, dipshits.
It is all starting to come crumbling down, dipshits.
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You throw words and phrases around like they are the gospel when in fact they are just fabrications from your closed mind to try to satisfy your emotion from election results that didn’t ga as you wanted,
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