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"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump"
Show me. You are doing the same thing the media is and twisting it to appear to be something else.
 

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There is no reference to the Russian government being involved it is typical campaign trash gathering via a Russian lawyer.
"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump"
 

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Show me. You are doing the same thing the media is and twisting it to appear to be something else.
The media isn't twisting anything. This implication is clear as day, you just want to believe it's something else.
 

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The media isn't twisting anything. This implication is clear as day, you just want to believe it's something else.
Goldstone indicated he thought the information on Hillary and her dealings with Russia would be damming to her. Goldstone went on to imply it might be information from the Russians who would like to help the Trump campaign.

Nothing was done to follow up.

Read the email as it is presented and by who. Then find what happened subsequently.
 

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Goldstone indicated he thought the information on Hillary and her dealings with Russia would be damming to her. Goldstone went on to imply it might be information from the Russians who would like to help the Trump campaign.

Nothing was done to follow up.
Except a meeting was scheduled, and Jr, Manafort, and Kushner went to the meeting.

Goldstone clearly contacted Jr. on behalf of Russia. Russia offered to collaborate with Jr., expressed a wish to help the campaign, Jr. enthusiastically agreed. There's no way this isn't collusion.
 

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Goldstone indicated he thought the information on Hillary and her dealings with Russia would be damming to her. Goldstone went on to imply it might be information from the Russians who would like to help the Trump campaign.

Nothing was done to follow up.

Read the email as it is presented and by who. Then find what happened subsequently.
I'm sure if the exact same circumstances were in place yet Hillary were the nominee in question and Chelsea were the one taking the meeting set up by people with ties to the Russian government you'd have the exact same opinion. Such a noble purveyor of truth and justice you are.
 

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Except a meeting was scheduled, and Jr, Manafort, and Kushner went to the meeting.

Goldstone clearly contacted Jr. on behalf of Russia. Russia offered to collaborate with Jr., expressed a wish to help the campaign, Jr. enthusiastically agreed. There's no way this isn't collusion.
None of what you just said is collusion. You may need to research the legal term more.
 

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None of what you just said is collusion. You may need to research the legal term more.
Maybe I misused common definition of "secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy."

I'm not sure where the legal definition diverges. But on it's face it's Jr accepting aid from an agent, reportedly representing the Russian government, wishing to benefit their campaign.

Whenever people have been talking about "collusion" for the last several months, that was what we were talking about. Cooperative relationship between Russia and the Trump campaign in an attempt to help Trump get elected.
 

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Except a meeting was scheduled, and Jr, Manafort, and Kushner went to the meeting.

Goldstone clearly contacted Jr. on behalf of Russia. Russia offered to collaborate with Jr., expressed a wish to help the campaign, Jr. enthusiastically agreed. There's no way this isn't collusion.
Meeting with who? Russian Government officials?
 

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Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Good morning

Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

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Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,
Don

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:40 PM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential

Hi Don
Let me know when you are free to talk with Emin by phone about this Hillary info - you had mentioned early this week so wanted to try to schedule a time and day Best to you and family Rob Goldstone

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On Jun 6, 2016, at 15:03, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Rob could we speak now?

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Executive Vice President of Development and Acquisitions The Trump Organization
725 Fifth Avenue | New York, NY | 10022 | [REDACTED] trump.com



From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 3:37 PM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential

Let me track him down in Moscow

What number he could call?

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On Jun 6, 2016, at 15:38, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

My cell [REDACTED] thanks

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Executive Vice President of Development and Acquisitions The Trump Organization
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On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Ok he's on stage in Moscow but should be off within 20 Minutes so I am sure can call Rob

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On Jun 6, 2016, at 16:38, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Rob thanks for the help.

D




On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Don

Hope all is well

Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

I assume it would be at your office.

Best

Rob Goldstone

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On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.

D

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On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

Perfect...I won't sit in on the meeting, but will bring them at 3pm and introduce you etc.

I will send the names of the two people meeting with you for security when I have them later today.

best

Rob




On Jun 7, 2016, at 18:14, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

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From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Wednesday June 08, 2016 10:34 AM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential

Good morning

Would it be possible to move tomorrow meeting to 4pm as the Russian attorney is in court until 3 i was just informed.

Best

Rob

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On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:15, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Yes Rob I could do that unless they wanted to do 3 today instead... just let me know and ill lock it in either way.

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Donald J. Trump Jr.
Executive Vice President of Development and Acquisitions The Trump Organization
725 Fifth Avenue | New York, NY | 10022 | [REDACTED] trump.com



From: Rob Goldstone
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:18 AM
To: Donald Trump Jr.
Subject: Re: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential

They can't do today as she hasn't landed yet from Moscow 4pm is great tomorrow.

Best

Rob

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From: Donald Trump Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:03 PM
To: Jared Kushner; Paul Manafort
Subject: FW: Russia - Clinton - private and confidential

Meeting got moved to 4 tomorrow at my offices.

Best,

Don

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Executive Vice President of Development and Acquisitions The Trump Organization
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I'm sure if the exact same circumstances were in place yet Hillary were the nominee in question and Chelsea were the one taking the meeting set up by people with ties to the Russian government you'd have the exact same opinion. Such a noble purveyor of truth and justice you are.
The circumstances aren't that. No one I am aware of met with Russian government officials. That's the part that is being assumed. If you can identify Russian government officials then you have something otherwise it is just typical dirt gathering stuff for political campaigns.
 

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There's no way of telling that the smoking gun was smoking because it was fired. That's just a media assumption, the gun might have mearly been enjoying a cigarette.
 

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The circumstances aren't that. No one I am aware of met with Russian government officials. That's the part that is being assumed. If you can identify Russian government officials then you have something otherwise it is just typical dirt gathering stuff for political campaigns.
Don't be obtuse, you lived through the Cold War, you know how these clandestine types of things go. When it comes to soft corruption like this everybody knows that nations act through intermediaries like this woman who was previously married to a Russian government official, who advocates for Russian interests and who has ties to Russian state-owned businesses. Not to mention the guy who wanted to set up the meeting in the first place is the son of a guy who is well known to have close ties to Putin.

It's fine though, we'll wait until Mueller's report comes out since it seems you're incapable of connecting dots that are clear to anybody without an agenda.
 

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Don't be obtuse, you lived through the Cold War, you know how these clandestine types of things go. When it comes to soft corruption like this everybody knows that nations act through intermediaries like this woman who was previously married to a Russian government official, who advocates for Russian interests and who has ties to Russian state-owned businesses. Not to mention the guy who wanted to set up the meeting in the first place is the son of a guy who is well known to have close ties to Putin.

It's fine though, we'll wait until Mueller's report comes out since it seems you're incapable of connecting dots that are clear to anybody without an agenda.
He'll say Mueller is part of teh democrat conspiracy just like Comey.
 

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So should we assume Donald sr. had no knowledge of this exchange? That a meeting scheduled in his building with the largest figures in his campaign, occurred without him knowing about Russia wanting to help him?

If not, his steadfast refusal to accept our intelligence agencies word on Russian interference is even more problematic.
 
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