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skidadl

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I don't really know if the teamsters went of strike or not but snopes is garbage.

Is that what you were looking for?
 

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Snopes is as left as Politico. everyone knows that.
 

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You guys continue to believe your conservative news drivel and I'll continue with the liberal drivel.
 

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I'm more of a fan of being skeptical of all of the current news. Most just gravitate toward whatever already agrees with their opinion.
 

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You guys continue to believe your conservative news drivel and I'll continue with the liberal drivel.
Except we don’t post some idodic memes every whip stitch then throw the word cunt around like it is conjunction to grammar. I will take you left stuff if you ever decide to compose something yourself.
 

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You guys continue to believe your conservative news drivel and I'll continue with the liberal drivel.
So the Treamsters blame the governor in your article. Is that who you are blaming then?

The truckers are doing what they need to do. The one not doing what he needs to do is the governor.
 

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Except we don’t post some idodic memes every whip stitch then throw the word cunt around like it is conjunction to grammar. I will take you left stuff if you ever decide to compose something yourself.
 

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So the Treamsters blame the governor in your article. Is that who you are blaming then?

The truckers are doing what they need to do. The one not doing what he needs to do is the governor.
Blame whomever you want, but don't act like Teamsters are sitting behind a picket line demanding mo money while people are suffering.
 

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So why do they not have enough truck drivers then?
There are 3,000 cargo containers here at Crowley, one of the biggest shippers in Puerto Rico…Here’s the problem – the truck drivers can’t get to the terminal to get their containers out…You’re looking at truck drivers who can’t be reached by their businesses by cell phone, they don’t have the gas to get to work, and then even when they do get to work, their semi-trucks don’t have fuel. The problem is the supply chain.
 

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Trump's Puerto Rico event was way worse than his tweets

Trump's Puerto Rico event was way worse than his tweets

President Donald Trump faced a major test on Tuesday as he traveled to storm-ravaged Puerto Rico: Show the American citizens struggling for survival on the island that he understood their plight, sympathized with them and was doing everything in his power to make it better as quickly as he could.

He failed. Hugely.

Soon after touching down in Puerto Rico, Trump said the following to government officials:

"Every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous — hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here, with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody's ever seen anything like this. What is your death count as of this moment? 17? 16 people certified, 16 people versus in the thousands. You can be very proud of all of your people and all of our people working together. Sixteen versus literally thousands of people. You can be very proud. Everybody around this table and everybody watching can really be very proud of what's taken place in Puerto Rico."

Where to begin????
How about that suggesting that what happened in Puerto Rico -- an entire island devastated, huge swaths without power, food and water in short supply -- wasn't a "real" catastrophe because not that many people died?

Or, what about using death count as a talking point? Yes, it's true that far more people died in Katrina (1,800+) than did in Maria (16). But, for the families of the 16 who died, that loss is no less heart-breaking. Loss of life is loss of life. And we're not even dealing with the thousands of people whose lives have been fundamentally altered, forever, as a result of this storm -- for whom things will never be the same and may well be far, far worse.

"Proud" is not the right word for how people should -- or do -- feel. It's not even close.

It's the opposite of empathy. Instead of mourning with and for those who lost their lives, Trump is using those who lost their lives as a way to make a broader argument that the media's criticism of him is unfair and biased.

See, I told you I was doing a great job, Trump was saying. Everyone here thinks so!

Me, me, me, me.

While Trump's comments about the relatively small number of deaths will draw the most attention -- and rightly so -- there's so much else in Trump's relatively brief comments that speaks to the fact that he lacks the empathy gene. Among them:

* "It's a great trip. Your weather is second to none but every once in a while you get hit. And you really got hit."

Your weather is second to none? The country has literally been leveled by a hurricane.

* "You've thrown our budget a little out of whack. We've spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico."

Trump was, ostensibly, joking about how much money the recovery efforts were costing him. Listen to the audio and see how many people laughed. Also, this is like buying the school textbooks your kid needs and then repeatedly reminding him how much the books costs and how he kind of, sort of owes you.

* "He started right at the beginning appreciating what we did...He was giving us the highest grades."

Trump is praising Puerto Rico's Gov. Ricardo Rosselló here -- but really he is praising himself. This governor, who I didn't know before this storm, said nice things about me. Which you should hear. Because people are saying some not nice things.

* "She was saying such nice things about all of the people who have worked so hard. Jenniffer, do you think you can say a little bit about what you said about us?"

Trump is referring here to Puerto Rico Rep. Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon, who he says he "watched' (on TV of course) say nice things about how Trump and his administration handled the hurricane. After Gonzalez-Colon finished praising Trump, the president added: "We saw those comments and everyone saw those comments.

* "General Kelly is a four star. You don't get any better than a four star."

Trump is very keen on highlighting the accomplishments of the generals on his staff -- most notably his chief of staff John Kelly. But, why is Kelly's military rank relevant when it comes to Puerto Rico's recovery? Watch the video. Kelly seems wholly uncomfortable being trotted out by Trump in this moment.

The whole 13+ minutes is surreal. Time and time again, Trump makes the whole thing about him -- using the various officials, military and otherwise, around him to reinforce the ideas that he is doing a great job. On display is someone wholly wrapped up in himself, incapable of understanding that this moment -- on the ground of a historic natural disaster for the Puerto Rican people --was not about him.

This is Trump off the telemprompter. Twitter Trump. Trump's real personality -- when words are not being carefully selected for him.

Trump knew -- because everyone wrote about it and TV talked about it relentlessly -- that the big question today in Puerto Rico was whether he could show some actual empathy, some human kindness to people he didn't know but who were still his constituents.

And, even knowing that, Trump delivered a navel-gazing, self-championing, victimhood-seeking speech that reeked of tone-deafness and out-of-touch-ism.

Even for this President, who has redefined presidential -- and not for the better -- this is a truly remarkable low.

But he wasn't done.

According to an on-the-ground report from CNN's Kevin Liptak, Trump seemed to see himself in a sort of Santa Claus role while handing out supplies to disaster victims. Here's a bit of Liptak's reporting:

Trump, along with the first lady and the governor, shook hands with the crowd. Trump, still wearing a wind breaker, picked up a can of tinned chicken breast and held it up for the crowd to see.

He handed a pack of batteries to a man, as many in the crowd held up their cell phones.

Trump held up a flashlight and showed it to the crowd, while shaking hands.

The first lady followed close behind.

Trump kept picking up items from tables laden with supplies, showing them to the crowd and handing them to people with outstretched hands.

"There's a lot of love in this room," the President said. "Great people."
 

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Well what do you expect when you are dealing with a complete phony? He doesn't know how to emulate empathy.
 

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Bob Corker, (R) Tennessee, just told the world what he really thinks of Donald Trump

Bob Corker, (R) Tennessee, just told the world what he really thinks of Donald Trump

Tennessee Republican Sen. Bob Corker suggested Wednesday that Gens. John Kelly and James Mattis as well Secretary of State Rex Tillerson are the "people that help separate our country from chaos," a stinging criticism of President Donald Trump from a man once considered an ally in Washington.

Asked directly by a reporter whether he was referring to Trump in using the word "chaos," Corker, who announced last month he would retire in 2018, responded: "(Mattis, Kelly and Tillerson) work very well together to make sure the policies we put forth around the world are sound and coherent. There are other people within the administration that don't. I hope they stay because they're valuable to the national security of our nation."

Stop for a second and re-read that last paragraph. The sitting Republican chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee is suggesting that if Tillerson was removed from office (or quit), the national security of the country would potentially be in danger. And he's refusing to knock down -- and thereby affirming -- the idea that Trump is an agent of chaos who pushes policies that are not always "sound" or "coherent."

That. Is. Stunning.

Corker also blasted Trump for undermining Tillerson -- most recently with a weekend tweet suggesting that the secretary of state's diplomatic work to solve the North Korea crisis would fail.

"I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man," Trump tweeted Sunday morning.

Corker said that Tillerson is "in an incredibly frustrating place," adding: "He ends up not being supported in the way I would hope a secretary of state would be supported. ... He's in a very trying situation -- trying to solve many of the world's problems without the support and help I'd like to see him have."

Those comments land amid reports that tensions between Trump and Tillerson are worse than ever. They also come on the same day Tillerson held an impromptu press conference to dismiss that he has ever considered resigning his post, but also refused to deny that he had called the President a "moron" during a moment of pique over the summer. :rofl

This is also not the first time that Corker, who was once mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick and was on the short list for secretary of state, has been overtly and harshly critical of Trump. Corker drew national headlines in August when he suggested that Trump "has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful."

Trump responded back via Twitter: "Strange statement by Bob Corker considering that he is constantly asking me whether or not he should run again in '18. Tennessee not happy!"

Trump and Corker eventually huddled at the White House to make amends and, according to reports, Trump asked Corker to run for a third term. Less than two weeks later, Corker announced he was retiring.

Corker's comments Wednesday are rightly read as a continuation of his August remarks. Then, he openly questioned Trump's stability and competence. Now he is making clear that if not for Tillerson, Mattis and Kelly, Trump would be leading the nation -- and the world -- into chaos.

There's no question that Corker feels freer to speak his mind without the worry of angering the President and potentially stirring up a serious primary challenge. But what's even more important/scary to contemplate: If this is Corker saying what he really thinks about Trump, what must the rest of Republicans in the Senate and House think of their President? And when will they speak out?
 

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Ok, That's the second bashing article you've listed that didn't have the source. Both make assumptions that one would make if I were writing shit to make Trump look bad so can only guess the source is relevant. Thanks for playing.
 

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Ok, That's the second bashing article you've listed that didn't have the source. Both make assumptions that one would make if I were writing shit to make Trump look bad so can only guess the source is relevant. Thanks for playing.
BiPo and others just can’t deal with the reality that Trump is the President. They apparently get some consolidation at being sour grapes bashers.
 

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BiPo and others just can’t deal with the reality that Trump is the President. They apparently get some consolidation at being sour grapes bashers.
He’s triggered and obsessed.

Endless memes and shit posts doesn’t change the fact that Trump won. In fact, it’s because of idiots like bipo that trump won.
 

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He’s triggered and obsessed.

Endless memes and shit posts doesn’t change the fact that Trump won. In fact, it’s because of idiots like bipo that trump won.
Which is why I don't favor a pure democracy. How's your vote count the same as mine?

Healthcare would be much cheaper if I just polled strangers on the streets about my x-rays and got their remedy vs going to a doctor.
 
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