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Cujo

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By delaying, Putin will have cost himself many more casualties. I don't understand what he's waiting for. Ukraine joining NATO presents an existential crisis for Russia.
 

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By delaying, Putin will have cost himself many more casualties. I don't understand what he's waiting for. Ukraine joining NATO presents an existential crisis for Russia.
To be honest, I think it is all theater. I think Biden will flex, wait to see how the US and NATO respond and then back down. He doesn't really want a war, I don't believe. If he does, he is nuttier than I thought.
 

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To be honest, I think it is all theater. I think Biden will flex, wait to see how the US and NATO respond and then back down. He doesn't really want a war, I don't believe. If he does, he is nuttier than I thought.

You may be right. But if either has to back down without receiving any concessions, they look weak. And if it's Biden, you can bet all our enemies will be emboldened.
 

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You may be right. But if either has to back down without receiving any concessions, they look weak. And if it's Biden, you can bet all our enemies will be emboldened.
They already are.
 

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Of course it was. The only people who don't think it was a failure are the hard-core Democrats that would overlook Biden stomping on puppies and blame Trump for it. At best Biden did nothing positive. At worst he did some very destructive stuff. But as a President doing nothing can be just as destructive as anything.
 

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Wait, so I just heard it was in the NY Times (so not some right wing pub) that we gave some of our intelligence on the Russian buildup to China, hoping they'd somehow talk the Russians out of it? And of course the Chinese immediately gave that intel to the Russians, because -- duh -- they're allies. :doh

Exactly how stupid are these people?
 

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Wait, so I just heard it was in the NY Times (so not some right wing pub) that we gave some of our intelligence on the Russian buildup to China, hoping they'd somehow talk the Russians out of it? And of course the Chinese immediately gave that intel to the Russians, because -- duh -- they're allies. :doh

Exactly how stupid are these people?
How is that New Paper allowed to be in operation going forward?
 

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But I hope he lives through his term. God fucking help us if Harris becomes President.
Yeah what a fucking awful ticket. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves. The Dems for nominating them and Trump for being so abrasive that people actually voted for those two as Pres and Vice.
 

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Yeah what a fucking awful ticket. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves. The Dems for nominating them and Trump for being so abrasive that people actually voted for those two as Pres and Vice.
That's what I've been saying. I don't understand why Trump worshipers didn't care to hold him accountable. He'd still be in office now.
 

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Yeah what a fucking awful ticket. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves. The Dems for nominating them and Trump for being so abrasive that people actually voted for those two as Pres and Vice.
I said it when Trump was elected...get the right people around him and be cool. We saw how that all worked out.
 

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That's what I've been saying. I don't understand why Trump worshipers didn't care to hold him accountable. He'd still be in office now.
Not a true worshipper but I've said it before that he only has himself to blame for not being reelected. He just cant help himself.
 

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Not a true worshipper but I've said it before that he only has himself to blame for not being reelected. He just cant help himself.
Yeah all he had to do was keep his mouth shut for the most part and he would have been fine. But that's beyond what Trump is capable of. And that's how we ended up with this shit show.

I'm not Trump lover or hater. But his problem wasn't his policies. His problem was his public actions and attitude.
 

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Yeah all he had to do was keep his mouth shut for the most part and he would have been fine. But that's beyond what Trump is capable of. And that's how we ended up with this shit show.

I'm not Trump lover or hater. But his problem wasn't his policies. His problem was his public actions and attitude.
And again, all he had to do is be cool. I remember when he was showing his ass even before he was sworn in and some of the Trumpies around here were all like, it will change when he gets in.

He was a bad President to have at the time. His rude behavior and lack of a filter made an impression and a big segment of our society took that as a blessing to act the same way. He also took glee at baiting far left responses and basically helped divide the country.
 

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Thrilled? Seriously?

My heart breaks for the Ukraine. But uh, Fire Marshall Bill, we got shit goin' down here too.
 

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And again, all he had to do is be cool. I remember when he was showing his ass even before he was sworn in and some of the Trumpies around here were all like, it will change when he gets in.

He was a bad President to have at the time. His rude behavior and lack of a filter made an impression and a big segment of our society took that as a blessing to act the same way. He also took glee at baiting far left responses and basically helped divide the country.
I'm not a fan of Trump's manner and Tweeting either. But the part about dividing people? Just remember that when DeSantis or someone else who isn't "rude" is elected and they hate him every bit as much.
 
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