Micah Parsons Traded To Packers

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Anyone with a 75 IQ can live their entire lives on 40.5 per.

If you are a complete moron buying chains worth more than small countries, then yeah, you gonna be broke no matter what.
 

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Good luck with that. He will be brought up here for years. Along with Amari, Zeke, Swiper, etc... Hell, Joey Galloway and RW11 are still brought up occasionally. :lol
It's true, its not going away any time soon. But I'm ready for it.
 

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In most cases it's the agent and NFLPA who twists players arms to hold out for the most money possible, because it helps with other contracts around the league. So I think there is a possibility that he meant what he said but decided to push for the higher number for the good of his peers.
I understand it, I'm just saying these guys want it both ways, they want to talk in these flowery platitudes to stay on the good side of fans and maybe their teammates, while behind the scenes pushing for top dollar over all else.

Fuck that.
 

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Josh Allen pretty much said this when we he left money on the table a few months ago. But it's easier for QBs to do that because they have a longer lifespan.
And bigger contracts.
 

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Not that I'm defending Parsons cause I think he's full of shit but didn't he say he'd take less so that the Cowboys could surround him with help? Maybe not, but I thought it was along those lines. And they surrounded him with a turd in Mazi and made no real effort to get another difference maker on defense. Maybe part of his thinking was if they aren't gonna use the saved money for help, why give the discount afterall.
 

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Hey look, the narcissistic attention whore cunt was blathering about the Parsins trade on good morning America today 😆
 

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Why is GMA talking to Jerry? And it wasn't even Strahan.
 

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You use Strahan to talk to people with actual football knowledge. No reason to waste him on a guy who knows nothing about football.
Good point.
 

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Parsons is the beneficiary of the general Cowboys hype-train.

TJ Watt, for example, has four seasons where he exceeded Micah's single season best of 14 sacks. Garrett's also met or exceeded 14 four times. Same with Demarcus Ware and only three seasons for Von Miller. The GOAT Reggie White had seven.

14 is a nice standard for "damned good"-- a.k.a DLaw's best, and 16+ is where we hit dominant, roughly one per game, contending for the league lead.

"Generational" talents should have multiple such dominant years, IMO. Micah has had four seasons of 12+-- hard to do, very good, very consistent, but no single season has been league-leading or even close to it. He's a slightly better pass-rushing and less good at run stopping version of Khalil Mack.

Also, all of the above are better vs the run and (even Reggie) have multiple career interceptions-- we are definitely misusing Micah who has 0 in his career.

I think Micah could get there if added to a team that understands defense and puts him at edge in a 3-4.

Thankfully the Packers are putting him at DE and traded the best helper Micah might have had to Dallas.
 
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Not that I'm defending Parsons cause I think he's full of shit but didn't he say he'd take less so that the Cowboys could surround him with help? Maybe not, but I thought it was along those lines. And they surrounded him with a turd in Mazi and made no real effort to get another difference maker on defense. Maybe part of his thinking was if they aren't gonna use the saved money for help, why give the discount afterall.
Seeing you post is jarring, man (it's the av)

But yeah, I get the feeling the team is highly motivated to 'prove Micah wrong' with this rash of signings.
 

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Parsons is the beneficiary of the general Cowboys hype-train.

TJ Watt, for example, has four seasons where he exceeded Micah's single season best of 14 sacks. Garrett's also met or exceeded 14 four times. Same with Demarcus Ware and only three seasons for Von Miller. The GOAT Reggie White had seven.

14 is a nice standard for "damned good"-- a.k.a DLaw's best, and 16+ is where we hit dominant, roughly one per game, contending for the league lead.

"Generational" talents should have multiple such dominant years, IMO. Micah has had four seasons of 12+-- hard to do, very good, very consistent, but no single season has been league-leading or even close to it. He's a slightly better pass-rushing and less good at run stopping version of Khalil Mack.

Also, all of the above are better vs the run and (even Reggie) have multiple career interceptions-- we are definitely misusing Micah who has 0 in his career.

I think Micah could get there if added to a team that understands defense and puts him at edge in a 3-4.

Thankfully the Packers are putting him at DE and traded the best helper Micah might have had to Dallas.
I agree that I don't think the perception of Parsons, nor the reaction to the trade, would be as dramatic if he were anywhere but Dallas.
 

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Parsons is the beneficiary of the general Cowboys hype-train.

TJ Watt, for example, has four seasons where he exceeded Micah's single season best of 14 sacks. Garrett's also met or exceeded 14 four times. Same with Demarcus Ware and only three seasons for Von Miller. The GOAT Reggie White had seven.

14 is a nice standard for "damned good"-- a.k.a DLaw's best, and 16+ is where we hit dominant, roughly one per game, contending for the league lead.

"Generational" talents should have multiple such dominant years, IMO. Micah has had four seasons of 12+-- hard to do, very good, very consistent, but no single season has been league-leading or even close to it. He's a slightly better pass-rushing and less good at run stopping version of Khalil Mack.

Also, all of the above are better vs the run and (even Reggie) have multiple career interceptions-- we are definitely misusing Micah who has 0 in his career.

I think Micah could get there if added to a team that understands defense and puts him at edge in a 3-4.

Thankfully the Packers are putting him at DE and traded the best helper Micah might have had to Dallas.

He's consistently near the top of pretty much every pass rush stat. It's silly to try to paint him as anything other than an elite pass rusher.

For example, last year he was 5th in sacks, 3rd in pressures, and 1st in hurries. (He was also 3rd in ESPN'S pass rush win rate if you believe in that sort of thing.)

Despite missing 4 games.
 

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He's consistently near the top of pretty much every pass rush stat. It's silly to try to paint him as anything other than an elite pass rusher.

For example, last year he was 5th in sacks, 3rd in pressures, and 1st in hurries. (He was also 3rd in ESPN'S pass rush win rate if you believe in that sort of thing.)

Despite missing 4 games.
I think ravid is saying he's elite but not the clear best in the league, and not in the historic pantheon of greats as he's sometimes billed.
 

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He's consistently near the top of pretty much every pass rush stat. It's silly to try to paint him as anything other than an elite pass rusher.

For example, last year he was 5th in sacks, 3rd in pressures, and 1st in hurries. (He was also 3rd in ESPN'S pass rush win rate if you believe in that sort of thing.)

Despite missing 4 games.
And you can make the HOF being one-dimensional. See: Chris Doleman.
 

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I think ravid is saying he's elite but not the clear best in the league, and not in the historic pantheon of greats as he's sometimes billed.
Correct, if Micah is "generational", then WTH are the guys who've equaled or bettered his achievements in Garrett, Watt, and Mack? Or Nick Bosa for that matter.
 
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