Micah Parsons Traded To Packers

[Simpleton]

Inside the Micah Parsons trade: How things fell apart in Dallas, and why Green Bay moved quickly

Micah Parsons wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy "for life." The disputed nature of a March meeting with Jerry Jones helped chart a course for his exit.

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Pretty fascinating to read, although it's impossible to know who exactly is telling the truth about certain pieces, i.e. did Parsons really go back to Stephen to try to bump up the 40.5 number right after talking to Jerry or is that Jerry trying to make Michah look bad?

At the end of the day we know Parsons had an offer around 40.5 on the table back in March that could've been wrapped up in a formal deal relatively easily. That number wasn't surpassed until Watt's deal 4 months later.

We also know Parsons said several times how he didn't have to be the highest paid and was happy to stay in Dallas even if he's a bit under the highest paid at the position.

That was obviously bullshit.

It also seems obvious that Micah and the agent tried to go back to the Cowboys a few days before the trade to jump start talks, and the team was ready to clean their hands of him, so the issues with him are real to some extent and not just some media-contrived cover story.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Pretty fascinating to read, although it's impossible to know who exactly is telling the truth about certain pieces, i.e. did Parsons really go back to Stephen to try to bump up the 40.5 number right after talking to Jerry or is that Jerry trying to make Michah look bad?

Fowler was on the Fan this morning and he was very calm and fair and even-handed, which is rare these days. But on the talks after what Micah claimed was just leadership and Jerry said was definitely negotiating, Fowler said who really knows, but the Cowboys source gave me such definite numbers and so many details that it's hard to believe they were making that up.

George Dunham on the Ticket said his guy told him that even though maybe there wasn't formal communication between the parties, once Jerry got word that the number was north of 44, he was out.

I think this is simple in the end. Micah initially did want to stay and maybe even meant what he said about not having to be the highest-paid, etc. But the agent got to him and convinced him to go for every dollar, and that's what happened. The team thought he was worth what they offered but not 47, so that was that.

 

[Smitty]

Inside the Micah Parsons trade: How things fell apart in Dallas, and why Green Bay moved quickly

Micah Parsons wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy "for life." The disputed nature of a March meeting with Jerry Jones helped chart a course for his exit.

www.espn.com

Doesn't paint Micah in the greatest light.

He essentially ended up being a liar about wanting to be here, not needing to be the highest paid, just wanting to be treated fairly, being team first, etc.

He wanted top dollar and he never stepped in personally to put an end to this when he could have been compensated more than fairly.

That being said, Jerry dragging his fucking ass like he always does, refusing to get the agent involved, etc, and then "insisting," that it was about fixing the run defense - and worse, instead of maximizing Micah's return and then using excess assets to go find a good value DT, they decided to do it all in one move (laziness) and limited themselves to a trade with a team that could give them a serviceable DT -- all of that made the situation way worse. This was made all the more imperative in their mind because they were on the doorstep of the season because they didn't get proactive about solving this problem in advance!

If Jerry had involved Micah's agent back in March this could have been done before the draft.

Idiots.

 

[Smitty]

Fowler was on the Fan this morning and he was very calm and fair and even-handed, which is rare these days. But on the talks after what Micah claimed was just leadership and Jerry said was definitely negotiating, Fowler said who really knows, but the Cowboys source gave me such definite numbers and so many details that it's hard to believe they were making that up.

George Dunham on the Ticket said his guy told him that even though maybe there wasn't formal communication between the parties, once Jerry got word that the number was north of 44, he was out.

I think this is simple in the end. Micah initially did want to stay and maybe even meant what he said about not having to be the highest-paid, etc. But the agent got to him and convinced him to go for every dollar, and that's what happened. The team thought he was worth what they offered but not 47, so that was that.

I agree that the agent and perhaps Micah's friends and family pushed him to maximize his dollars.

I don't understand it (from the player's perspective - I certainly understand why the agent always wants to push the amount higher and higher). Maybe because I don't come from the same background but I really cannot fathom growing up a fan of a team - a true fan, someone who died a little inside every time the team lost - and then being concerned whether I got $200m or $225m.

Especially when, if you have Jerry in your corner, you'll make it up in endorsements and post-playing career.

You have a chance to have your name in the Ring of Honor. To be a Dallas legend even if you don't win a title.

I mean, at some point, to me, who cares if I have $200m or $250m? My life won't be the slightest bit different with either of those amounts of money.

I don't get it. Why would I want to play for Philly or San Fran or some place I hated my whole life, some place I identified as an arch-enemy, for that essentially meaningless difference in money?

 

[Simpleton]

Doesn't paint Micah in the greatest light.

He essentially ended up being a liar about wanting to be here, not needing to be the highest paid, just wanting to be treated fairly, being team first, etc.

He wanted top dollar and he never stepped in personally to put an end to this when he could have been compensated more than fairly.

That being said, Jerry dragging his fucking ass like he always does, refusing to get the agent involved, etc, and then "insisting," that it was about fixing the run defense - and worse, instead of maximizing Micah's return and then using excess assets to go find a good value DT, they decided to do it all in one move (laziness) and limited themselves to a trade with a team that could give them a serviceable DT -- all of that made the situation way worse. This was made all the more imperative in their mind because they were on the doorstep of the season because they didn't get proactive about solving this problem in advance!

If Jerry had involved Micah's agent back in March this could have been done before the draft.

Idiots.

Or better yet, kickstarted this shit during the summer of 2024 when he was first eligible.

Although there's too many he said/she said's to really know exactly what happened, at the end of the day I think everybody involved is an asshole and fuck all of them, which I think I said a few times in the weeks leading up to the trade.

Fuck Jerry for obvious reasons.

Fuck Micah because all his talk about not needing to be the highest paid was nonsense.

And fuck the agent because I think he was happy to be a wedge between Jerry/Micah to drive the price up, rather than try to mend fences and close a deal that would've made Micah the highest paid non-QB in the league at any point between March and mid-July when Watt got his 41/year deal.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I mean, at some point, to me, who cares if I have $200m or $250m? My life won't be the slightest bit different with either of those amounts of money.

Because 50 million dollars is a hell of a lot of money.

Even if the player thinks like you, the agent, family, the agent, friends, and the agent are constantly telling them that they should get every penny they can. I'm sure there's plenty of social warfare kind of talk going on also.

I don't get it. Why would I want to play for Philly or San Fran or some place I hated my whole life, some place I identified as an arch-enemy, for that essentially meaningless difference in money?

Unfortunately, I don't think players think like this anymore. They look at it as they are all co-workers working for the same company, just in different divisions in different cities. Especially Micah -- look at him yukking it up with Jordan Love on his podcast right after they kicked his ass in the playoffs.

And I guess that's all fine, if that's the way it is. But don't make claims that you want to stay, care about your teammates, and don't care about being the highest paid when that's all a lie.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Even if the player thinks like you, the agent, family, the agent, friends, and the agent are constantly telling them that they should get every penny they can. I'm sure there's plenty of social warfare kind of talk going on also.

Yeah the cousin working 9-5 would love just a million dollars of your money. So of course those people are going to say, just get a little more and you can help us out. And as I've said before the agent has every motivation in the world to be able to say he just did the biggest non QB deal ever. The players union is always pushing the players to get every penny that they can.

It's a lot of outside sources of influence pushing a guy in a direction. And not to be offensive but Parsons feels like a guy who can be manipulated.

 

[Smitty]

Because 50 million dollars is a hell of a lot of money.

But it's not $50m flat, it's $250m versus $200m. You can't spend it in a lifetime. It's an unfathomable amount of money.

Unless.....

Even if the player thinks like you, the agent, family, the agent, friends, and the agent are constantly telling them that they should get every penny they can. I'm sure there's plenty of social warfare kind of talk going on also.

Yeah, unless every last family member wants to be taken care of as well.

But again, like... you can give every member of your extended family $500k, or, if you really hold out, you can give them all $750k.

I mean, at some point... like, my own legacy playing for the team I love is more important.

Unfortunately, I don't think players think like this anymore. They look at it as they are all co-workers working for the same company, just in different divisions in different cities. Especially Micah -- look at him yukking it up with Jordan Love on his podcast right after they kicked his ass in the playoffs.

Yeah, I guess, but Micah said he grew up loving Dallas.

I guess I really just doubt that.

I mean, what if it's a BILLION dollars, versus a billion and $50m? Still think it makes a difference? At some point it just doesn't.

And for Micah it's not even $250m vs $200m.

He's got his last contract. This contract. His next contract. His after-career earnings. His endorsements. The interest he earns and the return on his investments over the next 20 years.

It's probably $350m vs. $300m.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But it's not $50m flat, it's $250m versus $200m. You can't spend it in a lifetime. It's an unfathomable amount of money.

You don't have to convince me, I'm with you. I'm just trying to think like the players do.

I'm trying to think of the players who took a relatively friendly deal and regretted it, and can't really think of any. I'm sure Tyron is fine.

But I think these guys are sold that the owner is your enemy, they don't care about you, and you should get every penny because that's all that matters. I'm sure these high-powered agents are incredibly persuasive to these players.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

You don't have to convince me, I'm with you. I'm just trying to think like the players do.

I'm trying to think of the players who took a relatively friendly deal and regretted it, and can't really think of any. I'm sure Tyron is fine.

But I think these guys are sold that the owner is your enemy, they don't care about you, and you should get every penny because that's all that matters. I'm sure these high-powered agents are incredibly persuasive to these players.

I think the NFLPA pushes pretty hard as well for exactly what you're saying. Don't leave a penny on the table. As though there isn't a salary cap that requires money to be spent and somehow the players lose if a guy takes less than he can potentially get. But that's not how the NFLPA looks at it.

 

[Smitty]

You don't have to convince me, I'm with you. I'm just trying to think like the players do.

I'm trying to think of the players who took a relatively friendly deal and regretted it, and can't really think of any. I'm sure Tyron is fine.

But I think these guys are sold that the owner is your enemy, they don't care about you, and you should get every penny because that's all that matters. I'm sure these high-powered agents are incredibly persuasive to these players.

Incredibly persuasive to stupid people.

 

[NoDak]

Incredibly persuasive to stupid people.

Then the NFL is over flowing with stupid people, because the overwhelming majority of them would take every last drop of blood they could squeeze from the turnip

 

[boozeman]

I don‘t give a shit anymore. It is done.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don‘t give a shit anymore. It is done.

Yeah I start out pissed but now I'm just over it. Jerry sucks at his job. It's not new news. And honestly I'm ready to just stop talking about Parsons. I'd rather talk about the players that are here and root for the Packers to lose.

 

[NoDak]

Yeah I start out pissed but now I'm just over it. Jerry sucks at his job. It's not new news. And honestly I'm ready to just stop talking about Parsons. I'd rather talk about the players that are here and root for the Packers to lose.

Good luck with that. He will be brought up here for years. Along with Amari, Zeke, Swiper, etc... Hell, Joey Galloway and RW11 are still brought up occasionally.

 

[Bipo]

Just think how bad it will be if Parsons is instrumental in any Super Bowl wins for the Pack.

 

[Rev]

Then the NFL is over flowing with stupid people, because the overwhelming majority of them would take every last drop of blood they could squeeze from the turnip

Not just the NFL. People in general.

 

[Bipo]

Not just the NFL. People in general.

I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

 

[1bigfan13]

We also know Parsons said several times how he didn't have to be the highest paid and was happy to stay in Dallas even if he's a bit under the highest paid at the position.

That was obviously bullshit.

In most cases it's the agent and NFLPA who twists players arms to hold out for the most money possible, because it helps with other contracts around the league. So I think there is a possibility that he meant what he said but decided to push for the higher number for the good of his peers.

 

[1bigfan13]

I mean, at some point, to me, who cares if I have $200m or $250m? My life won't be the slightest bit different with either of those amounts of money.

I don't get it. Why would I want to play for Philly or San Fran or some place I hated my whole life, some place I identified as an arch-enemy, for that essentially meaningless difference in money?

Josh Allen pretty much said this when we he left money on the table a few months ago. But it's easier for QBs to do that because they have a longer lifespan.

Great QBs like Allen and Burrow can play for over 15 years and sign at least three lucrative contracts during their career. While a guy like Parsons who lives his life in the trenches might only get one or two bites at the apple.

When you consider that, I completely understand why some choose to get as much as they can while they can.